Representation of conjugate momentum

In summary, the conversation discusses the representation of momentum in different coordinate systems. It is stated that in Cartesian position basis, the representation of momentum is -ihbar (d/dx). However, in curvilinear coordinates, the momentum operator can be expressed as -ihbar (d/dθ) in the θ basis. It is also mentioned that quantization can work in any coordinate system as long as there exists a coordinate transformation between different systems. The possibility of replacing θ with x on a circle and using r and θ as basis vectors is also discussed. Ultimately, it is concluded that quantization in one system can be easily transformed into any other coordinate system.
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We know that in Cartesian position basis the representation of momentum is -ihbar (d/dx)

Consider a cylindrical/spherical/whatever curvilinear coordinates. To make life simple, consider a particle constrained to move on a circle so that its position can described by θ only. Suppose we express the wavefunction as a function of θ, not x. The system has an Lagrangian from which we can find the conjugate momentum pθ

Can we thus declare that pθ can be represented by -ihbar (d/dθ) in the θ basis?
 
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Canonical quantization sort of only works well in rectilinear coordinates iirc. Quantizing generalized coordinates is a messy subject. However, in the case of cylindrical coordinates in one dimension, All you have to do is turn x into a periodic coordinate and it should work fine.
 
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The momentum operator in position representation is always
$$\hat{\vec{p}}=-\mathrm{i} \hbar \vec{\nabla}.$$
Since ##\vec{\nabla}## is a vector operator, it can be expressed in any coordinates you like. It always has the same meaning, but perhaps I don't understand the question right.
 
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Quantization will work in any coordinate system as long as there exists coordinate transformation between different system, that is the whole pt. and the physics does not depend on a specific coordinate system. Generalized coordinates are used all the time in QFT, QM and Stat.Physics, you name it.

On a circle, theta can be replaced by x, just consider the circle is very large and is almost a straight line btw 2 pts. A & B. Why not? There is only one basis vector in theta-basis, since 1-dim. If the radius of the circle is changing then use r and theta as basis.

You can also transform the coordinates from x-quantized system to theta system with simple coordinate transformation and that's it, you have a theta-quantized system.

Bottom line is that you quantize in one system of coordinates and just transform into any coordinates, the system remain quantized.
 

1. What is conjugate momentum?

Conjugate momentum is a concept in classical mechanics that is used to describe the momentum associated with a system's generalized coordinates. It is derived from the Lagrangian formalism and is necessary for understanding the dynamics of a system.

2. How is conjugate momentum related to velocity?

Conjugate momentum is mathematically related to velocity through the Hamiltonian formalism, which is an alternative way of describing the dynamics of a system. In this formalism, the conjugate momentum is the derivative of the Hamiltonian function with respect to the generalized coordinates.

3. What is the significance of conjugate momentum in classical mechanics?

Conjugate momentum is significant because it allows us to describe the dynamics of a system in a more general and elegant way. It also allows for the conservation of momentum to be easily expressed and understood, making it a useful tool for solving problems in classical mechanics.

4. How is conjugate momentum represented mathematically?

In general, conjugate momentum is represented as a vector or a set of vectors, one for each generalized coordinate. In the Hamiltonian formalism, it is represented as the derivative of the Hamiltonian with respect to the generalized coordinates, while in the Lagrangian formalism it is represented as the derivative of the Lagrangian with respect to the generalized velocities.

5. Can conjugate momentum be negative?

Yes, conjugate momentum can be negative. The sign of the conjugate momentum depends on the direction of the generalized coordinate and the choice of the coordinate system. In some cases, negative conjugate momentum can indicate that the system is moving in the opposite direction of the coordinate axis.

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