Show that V is a subspace of P2

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In summary: Sure. First, suppose that $x^2 - 1eq 0$. In that case, $({x}^{2}-1)(0) = ({x}^{2}-1)(x+1)$, so $({x}^{2}-1)p(x) + ({x}^{2}-1)q(x) = ({x}^{2}-1)(p+q)$ and since $p+q \in P_2$, axiom 2 is again satisfied. Next, suppose that $x^2 - 1eq 0$. In that case, $({x}^{2}-1)(0) = ({x}^{2
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$$V = \{({x}^{2}-1)p(x) | p(x) \in {P}_{2}\}$$ show that V is a subspace of ${P}_{2}$I tried:
$({x}^{2}-1)(0) = 0$ so 0 is in ${P}_{2}$ (axiom 1 is satisfied). If p(x) and q(x) are in ${P}_{2}$, then $({x}^{2}-1)p(x) + ({x}^{2}-1)q(x) = ({x}^{2}-1)(p(x)+q(x))$ and since $p(x)+q(x) \in {P}_{2}$, axiom 2 is satisfied. Finally, if $p(x) \in {P}_{2}$ then $ap(x)$ (a is a scalar) is also in ${P}_{2}$. Since all three axioms are met, V is a subspace of ${P}_{2}.$

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Well you showed it is a subspace of *something* but it's *not* a subspace of $P_2$, since we have:

$x^2 \in P_2$, but certainly $x^4 - x^2 = (x^2 - 1)x^2 \not\in P_2$, since it has degree $4$.
 
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Well you showed it is a subspace of *something* but it's *not* a subspace of $P_2$, since we have:

$x^2 \in P_2$, but certainly $x^4 - x^2 = (x^2 - 1)x^2 \not\in P_2$, since it has degree $4$.

Ok, then is it still possible to find a basis and dimension of V if it is not a subspace of ${P}_{2}$?
 
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Sure. If your underlying field is $\Bbb R$, then $V$ would be a subspace of $\Bbb R[x]$. Otherwise, if its some *other* field $F$, then $V$ is a subspace of $F[x]$.

But a set need not be a subspace of some *other* vector space in order to be a vector space-it's just that we have fewer axioms to check if we're checking for a subspace (only 3 conditions), instead of the 8,9 or 10 axioms you often see listed in textbooks.

EVERY VECTOR SPACE HAS A BASIS.

I cannot stress enough the importance of this. The proof involves the axiom of choice for "arbitrary" vector spaces, but for finite-dimensional spaces, it's practically "true by definition" (since finite-dimensional *means* we have a finite basis).

Of course, $\Bbb R[x]$ (or $F[x]$ for that matter) is not finite-dimensional. But the subspace of polynomials of degree at most $n$ (for any positive integer $n$) *is* finite-dimensional, with dimension $n+1$ (so $P_2$ has dimension 3, one possible basis is $\{1,x,x^2\}$).

In your case, "your" $V$ has dimension at most $5$ (it is a subspace of $P_4$). If $\{x^2 - 1, x^3 - x,x^4 - x^2\}$ are linearly independent over your field, then $V$ has dimension at least $3$ (can you see this?).

So you have two cases (perhaps) to rule out (if you prove my statement above)-can you do this?
 

Related to Show that V is a subspace of P2

1. What is a subspace?

A subspace is a subset of a vector space that satisfies the same vector space properties as the original space. This means that it must be closed under addition and scalar multiplication, and must contain the zero vector.

2. How can I show that V is a subspace of P2?

To show that V, a set of polynomials of degree 2 or less, is a subspace of P2, you need to prove that it satisfies the three vector space properties. This can be done by checking if the set is closed under addition and scalar multiplication, and if it contains the zero vector (the polynomial 0).

3. Can you give an example of a subspace of P2?

One example of a subspace of P2 is the set of all linear polynomials (polynomials of degree 1). This set satisfies the three vector space properties and is a subset of P2.

4. What happens if V does not satisfy the vector space properties?

If V does not satisfy the vector space properties, then it is not considered a subspace of P2. This means that it may not be closed under addition or scalar multiplication, or it may not contain the zero vector.

5. Why is it important to show that V is a subspace of P2?

Showing that V is a subspace of P2 is important because it allows us to use all the properties and theorems of vector spaces in our analysis of V. It also helps us understand the structure of V and how it relates to the larger vector space P2.

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