Small Ball Falling: Velocity, Acceleration & Height vs Time

In summary: Use v(0) = 0 to get rid of the constant C. Otherwise, the solution is correct, which I've checked, and you should as well.
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1.Small ball with mass m falls from hight h. Find how velocity, acceleration and height depend on time. Air resistance is linear and depends on velocity ##F = kv##.

2. Air resistance ##F=kv##
where ##k## is constant.

3. I do not know where to go after ##ma = mg - kv ##.
 
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Patrikp said:
1.Small ball with mass m falls from hight h. Find how velocity, acceleration and height depend on time. Air resistance is linear and depends on velocity ##F = kv##.

2. Air resistance ##F=kv##
where ##k## is constant.

3. I do not know where to go after ##ma = mg - kv ##.
a = dv/dt and v = ds/dt
Do you know anything about solving differential equations?
 
  • #3
Mark44 said:
a = dv/dt and v = ds/dt
Do you know anything about solving differential equations?

That is the problem... I know that a= dv/dt but where do I go then? I tried to integrate but got nowhere.
 
  • #5
Mark44 said:
Show me what you did...

I wrote it like ## (dv)/(dt) + v(k/m)= g##
And then multiplied by ##e^{∫(k/m)dt}##
to get
##v= e^{-(∫(k/m)dt)}(∫ge^{∫(k/m)dt}dt + c)##
and that gave something wrong.
 
  • #6
Patrikp said:
I wrote it like ## (dv)/(dt) + v(k/m)= g##
And then multiplied by ##e^{∫(k/m)dt}##
to get
##v= e^{-(∫(k/m)dt)}(∫ge^{∫(k/m)dt}dt + c)##
and that gave something wrong.
Why don't you simplify ##e^{\int (k/m)dt}##? There's no point in leaving it like this.
 
  • #7
Mark44 said:
Why don't you simplify ##e^{\int (k/m)dt}##? There's no point in leaving it like this.
I simplified but did not write it here... Anyways the result i should get is ##v(t)= ((mg)/k )(1-e^{-((kt)/m))}) ## and I cannot get it. Do you see mistake ??
 
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Your work should include a line like this:
$$ve^{(k/m)t} = g\int e^{(k/m)t}dt = g(m/k)e^{(k/m)t} + C$$
Now solve for v.
 
  • #9
Mark44 said:
Your work should include a line like this:
$$ve^{(k/m)t} = g\int e^{(k/m)t}dt = g(m/k)e^{(k/m)t} + C$$
Now solve for v.
Thanks.
But I still can't get right result? And I always get that C hanging there?
 
  • #11
Mark44 said:
What do you get when you solve for v?
##v= (g/m)k + Ce^{-((kt)/m)}##
 
  • #12
Patrikp said:
##v= (g/m)k + Ce^{-((kt)/m)}##
How did g(m/k) become (g/m)k? The other term looks fine.
 
  • #13
Mark44 said:
How did g(m/k) become (g/m)k? The other term looks fine.
It's typo. I don't know why the solution is wrong then.
Thanks for help!
 
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There are initial conditions that aren't being used -- at t = 0, s(0) = h and v(0) = 0. The initial velocity isn't given explicitly, but I am inferring it from the statement in the 1st post - small ball falls from height h.

Use v(0) = 0 to get rid of the constant C. Otherwise, the solution is correct, which I've checked, and you should as well.
 
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Related to Small Ball Falling: Velocity, Acceleration & Height vs Time

1. What is small ball falling?

Small ball falling is a physics experiment that involves dropping a small ball from a height and measuring its velocity, acceleration, and height at different times.

2. How is velocity calculated in small ball falling?

Velocity is calculated by dividing the change in height of the ball by the change in time. This gives the average velocity of the ball during that time interval.

3. How does acceleration affect the motion of the small ball?

Acceleration is the rate of change of velocity over time. In small ball falling, the acceleration of the ball is affected by the force of gravity, which causes the ball to accelerate towards the ground at a constant rate of 9.8 meters per second squared.

4. What is the relationship between height and time in small ball falling?

The relationship between height and time in small ball falling is a quadratic one. This means that as the ball falls, the height decreases at an increasing rate.

5. How is the experiment for small ball falling typically set up?

The experiment for small ball falling typically involves dropping a small ball from a known height and using a timer to record the time it takes for the ball to reach the ground. The height and time data are then used to calculate the velocity and acceleration of the ball.

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