Solve Physics Echo Problem: Air Echo Returns 1.33s Later

In summary, the boat floating at rest in dense fog near a cliff has a captain who sounds a horn at water level and the sound travels through the salt water and air simultaneously. The echo in the water takes 0.40s to return, and the question asks for the additional time it will take for the echo in the air to return. The correct process is to find the total time, which is 1.73 s, and then subtract the 0.40s return time from it to get 1.33 s as the additional time it took for the echo in the air to return. This is because the question is asking for the difference in total journey time, not just the return journey time.
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Homework Statement


A boat is floating at rest in dense fog near a cliff. The captain sounds a horn at water level and the sound travels through the salt water (1470 m/s) and the air (340 m/s) simultaneously. The echo in the water takes 0.40s to return. How much additional time will it take the echo in the air to return?

Homework Equations


v = Δd/Δt

The Attempt at a Solution


First Attempt:
v = Δd/Δt

Δd = v Δt = (1470 m/s) (0.40 s) = 588 m

Δt = Δd/v = 588m / 340 m/s = 1.73 s

Δt = 1.73 s – 0.40 s = 1.33 s

The echo in the air took 1.33 s longer to return.

Second Attempt:
I was thinking that 1.73 s would be the total time, so then I would have to divide 1.73 s by 2 to get the return time (0.865 s). Then I would subtract 0.40s from 0.865 s to get the additional time it took the echo to return, which would be 0.465 s. Like this:

v = Δd/Δt

Find total time:
Δd = v Δt = (1470 m/s) (0.40 s) = 588 m

Δt = Δd/v = 588m / 340 m/s = 1.73 s

Then find return time:
1.73 s/2 = 0.865 s
Then find additional time:
0.865 s - 0.40s = 0.465 s

The echo in the air took 0.465 s longer to return.

Please help me figure out which process is correct, if they even are correct :)

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pretty sure your 1st answer is correct. The question is not asking about the return journey, but total journey time - 0.4s in total for the underwater echo, so the question is looking for the difference in total time
 
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I am doing a similar qts
 
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Thanks so much for your help, mgkii :)
 

1. How does sound travel through air?

Sound travels through air as a longitudinal wave, which means that the particles of air vibrate back and forth in the same direction as the wave is traveling.

2. What causes an echo to occur?

An echo occurs when a sound wave reflects off a hard surface, such as a wall or a cliff, and returns to the listener's ears. This happens because the sound wave is not absorbed by the surface and instead bounces back.

3. Why does an air echo return 1.33 seconds later?

The time it takes for an air echo to return depends on the distance between the source of the sound and the reflecting surface. In this case, the distance is likely around 445 meters, which would take a sound wave approximately 1.33 seconds to travel there and back.

4. How does the speed of sound affect the time it takes for an echo to return?

The speed of sound is the determining factor in how long it takes for an echo to return. The faster the speed of sound, the shorter the time it takes for the echo to return. In a different medium, such as water, the speed of sound would be different and therefore the time for an echo to return would also be different.

5. Can an echo occur in a vacuum?

No, an echo cannot occur in a vacuum because there are no air particles for the sound wave to vibrate and reflect off of. Therefore, there would be no returning sound wave for the echo to be heard.

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