Solving a Two-Terminal Black Box Circuit

In summary: I figured this: it can't be connected in parallel to the resistor or inductor + resistor because right after the battery is connected the potential drop across the capacitor is 0 because it hasn't charged yet, and the problem states there is current. Since there is current after the battery is connected there must be no potential across the inductor too right? Because the inductor won't allow sudden changes in current like going from 0 to 1.5 mA current across the capacitor does not mean there is no current in the circuit. Current leads voltage in a capacitor. So there is current through the capacitor initially as charge (and voltage) is building up. When there is maximum voltage drop across the capacitor there is no current at all.
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Homework Statement



A two-terminal “black box” is known to contain an inductor L, a
capacitor C, and a resistor R. On connecting a 1.5 V battery, 1.5 mA
flows. When an AC voltage of 1V RMS at 60 Hz is connected, 10 mA
RMS flows. As the frequency increases at a fixed 1 V RMS, the
current reaches a maximum of over 100 A at 1 kHz. Sketch the circuit
in the black box and find values for L, C and R.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I can't figure out how to start this one because of the phrase "on connecting the battery". I think that must mean immediately after connecting the battery, but I don't know how the circuit could be set up if that was the case because no current can flow through the capacitor when there is zero frequency. Can someone help me see how the circuit is supposed to be set up?
 
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What would happen if the capacitor was connected in parallel to the resistor and/or inductor?

AM
 
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I figured this: it can't be connected in parallel to the resistor or inductor + resistor because right after the battery is connected the potential drop across the capacitor is 0 because it hasn't charged yet, and the problem states there is current. Since there is current after the battery is connected there must be no potential across the inductor too right? Because the inductor won't allow sudden changes in current like going from 0 to 1.5 mA
 
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phrygian said:
I figured this: it can't be connected in parallel to the resistor or inductor + resistor because right after the battery is connected the potential drop across the capacitor is 0 because it hasn't charged yet, and the problem states there is current. Since there is current after the battery is connected there must be no potential across the inductor too right? Because the inductor won't allow sudden changes in current like going from 0 to 1.5 mA
A 0 voltage across the capacitor does not mean there is no current in the circuit. Current leads voltage in a capacitor. So there is current through the capacitor initially as charge (and voltage) is building up. When there is maximum voltage drop across the capacitor there is no current at all.

You have to assume that the current of 1.5 mA is the stable current that results from the application of 1.5 DC. The current becomes stable after a very short time so ignore initial effects.

AM
 

Related to Solving a Two-Terminal Black Box Circuit

1. What is a two-terminal black box circuit?

A two-terminal black box circuit is a simple circuit with two connection points, also known as terminals, that can be used to measure the relationship between voltage and current. The internal components of the circuit are not known, hence the term "black box."

2. How do you solve a two-terminal black box circuit?

To solve a two-terminal black box circuit, you will need to measure the voltage and current at the two terminals and use Ohm's Law (V=IR) to calculate the resistance of the circuit. You can also use Kirchhoff's Laws to analyze the circuit and determine the relationship between voltage and current.

3. What is the purpose of solving a two-terminal black box circuit?

The purpose of solving a two-terminal black box circuit is to understand the behavior and characteristics of the circuit. By determining the resistance and other properties of the circuit, you can predict how it will respond to different voltage and current inputs and troubleshoot any issues that may arise.

4. What are some common applications of two-terminal black box circuits?

Two-terminal black box circuits are commonly used in electronic devices, such as computers, smartphones, and household appliances. They are also used in electrical systems, such as power grids and renewable energy systems, for monitoring and control purposes.

5. Are there any limitations to solving a two-terminal black box circuit?

Yes, there are some limitations to solving a two-terminal black box circuit. The results may not be 100% accurate due to factors such as internal resistance, temperature, and other external factors that may affect the circuit's performance. Additionally, two-terminal black box circuits are limited in their complexity and may not accurately represent more complicated circuits.

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