Speed of Light, Rapidity & Cantor's Infinities

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of rapidity in relativity and its relation to the speed of light. The concept of infinity and its relation to the rapidity of light is also mentioned, with Cantor's result providing some insight into the nature of infinity. However, this has no bearing on the behavior of light in relativity.
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The natural expression of speed in relativity (and thus the true meaning of speed) is through the concept of rapidity, which comes from incorporating the gamma factor. It turns out that the rapidity of light is infinite. So the question of whether there can be speeds greater than light becomes the question of whether there can be rapidities greater than infinity.

Here comes Cantor, who as you may know, proved one of the most surprising results in all of mathematics. He proved that there are different sizes of infinities and, on top of that, that there is no "largest" infinity. The last part also clears the waters as to what kind of rapidity is the rapidity of light. Is it the infinity of integers or of real numbers (which is a larger infinity)? It doesn't matter, because there is no largest infinity. So, Cantor's result gives a little hope that, at least mathematically, the infinite rapidity of light is not a limit.

What are your thoughts on this?
 
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I think you are applying math to reality in a way that does not compute.
 
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Please elaborate.
 
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You are positing a personal theory that the "speed of light", which is the name we give to the "universal speed limit" may not BE the universal speed limit because of some abstract math thing. I don't think that has any basis in reality, it's just a math thing.
 
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AlexDB9 said:
It turns out that the rapidity of light is infinite.

No, this is not correct. What is correct is that the rapidity of light is undefined. The various concepts of infinity in mathematics have nothing to do with the behavior of light in relativity.
 

What is the speed of light?

The speed of light, denoted by the symbol c, is a fundamental constant in physics that represents the maximum speed at which all matter and information in the universe can travel. In a vacuum, the speed of light is approximately 299,792,458 meters per second (m/s).

How is the speed of light measured?

The speed of light is measured using various experimental techniques, including the use of lasers, interferometers, and particle accelerators. One of the most accurate methods involves measuring the time it takes for a beam of light to travel a known distance, using precise instruments such as atomic clocks.

What is rapidity in physics?

Rapidity is a measure of the speed of an object relative to the speed of light. It is defined as the hyperbolic tangent of the object's velocity divided by the speed of light. Rapidities are often used in high-energy particle physics to describe the properties of subatomic particles.

What are Cantor's infinities?

Cantor's infinities refer to the mathematical concept of different sizes of infinity, as described by the German mathematician Georg Cantor in the late 19th century. Cantor's work showed that not all infinities are equal, and there are an infinite number of infinities that can be compared and ordered.

Why is the speed of light considered a universal constant?

The speed of light is considered a universal constant because it is the same for all observers, regardless of their relative motion. This is a fundamental principle of Einstein's theory of relativity, which has been extensively tested and verified through experiments. The constancy of the speed of light allows for the laws of physics to be consistent across all reference frames.

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