Spherical gas distributed symmetricaly over space

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of equations (1) and (2) to model the energy in an infinitesimal spherical layer with a certain number of moles, but an issue arises when attempting to integrate equation (3) over the entire volume of gas. The mistake lies in changing the scenario to which the equation applies, as it assumes a constant uniform pressure and temperature, rather than a changing number of moles.
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Homework Statement
Since the problem is long, and my doubt is very specific, I'll show it in a picture, it is the problem 6. But summing up, the question is in the item ii) where it is asked to calculate the total thermal energy of the gas.
Relevant Equations
U=nCvT ; PV=nRT;
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We have that energy in a infinitesimal Spherical layer with number of mols dn is:
dU=Cv.T.dn (1)
But by the ideal gas law:
PV=nRT (2)
Differentiation gives:
PdV+VdP=RTdn (3)
(3) in (1) and using CV=3R/2 (monoatomic)
gives:
dU=3/2.(PdV+VdP) (4)
Integration of (4) over the whole gas will not give the result expected. Where is my mistake?
 
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For (2) ##PV=nRT ##, the ## n ## in that formula is the total moles in a volume ## V ## at pressure ## P ## and temperature ## T ##. Changing the number of moles by ## dn ## at temperature ## T ##, (##dn ## uniformly distributed throughout the volume ##V ##), will result in the formula you obtained when you differentiated both sides. The integration of both sides of the equation, where you are completely changing the scenario to which the equation applies, is simply invalid.
 
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You say that equation 3 is valid, but it is not valid to integrate it over the whole volume ? This change of the scenario would be caused by what? Is it because of the gradient pressure, like if you were assuming all gas to be at the same thermodynamic equilibrium?
 
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In the manner that you are using ## dn ##, you have a system at constant uniform pressure (and constant temperature), and ## n ## is proportional to ## V ##, so that ## dn=\frac{P \, dV}{RT} ##. Integrating both sides gives ##n=\frac{PV}{RT} ##.
 
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What is "Spherical gas distributed symmetricaly over space"?

"Spherical gas distributed symmetricaly over space" refers to a theoretical model in which gas particles are evenly distributed throughout a spherical region of space. This model is often used in physics and chemistry to understand the behavior of gases in a controlled environment.

How is the distribution of gas particles determined in this model?

In this model, the distribution of gas particles is determined by the properties of the gas, such as its temperature, pressure, and volume. These properties affect the speed and movement of the particles, which in turn determine their distribution within the spherical space.

What are some real-world applications of this model?

This model has several real-world applications, such as understanding the movement of gas particles in a closed container, studying the behavior of gases in the Earth's atmosphere, and modeling the spread of pollutants in the air.

Does this model accurately represent all gases?

No, this model is a simplified representation and does not accurately represent all gases. It is most commonly used for ideal gases, which follow certain laws and assumptions. Real gases may deviate from this model due to factors such as intermolecular forces and non-ideal behavior.

How is this model related to the ideal gas law?

The ideal gas law is a mathematical relationship between the properties of a gas, including its pressure, volume, and temperature. This model is often used in conjunction with the ideal gas law to predict and understand the behavior of gases in a spherical distribution.

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