Spivak Calculus 4th ed (Ch1 problem 7)

In summary, if 0<a<b, then a < \sqrt{ab} < \frac {a+b} {2} < b. This can be proven by using the fact that (a-b)^2 > 0 and manipulating the terms to show that a < \sqrt {ab} < \frac {a + b} {2} < b.
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MidgetDwarf
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Prove that if 0<a<b, then [itex]a < \sqrt{ab} < \frac {a+b} {2} < b [/itex]

Please excuse if format is messy, this is my first time writing in Latex.

Suppose 0<a<b then 0<a+O =a (1). Since a<b we can can rewrite this using (1) which is a+0<b (2).
Adding a to both sides of (2) (closed under addition) we get 2a< a+b (3). Using the multiplicative inverse of 2, (3) now becomes ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ## (4). Using the fact that a<b, ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ##
< ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ## < ## a < \frac {b + b} {2} ## =b. Therefore a<b .

Here is were I am confused. I am missing the step were ## a < \sqrt {ab} ##. Can I say that a*b<a*a=a^2 ?
Then take the square root? If this is true how would I connect it with ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ## ?

Strong criticism welcomed.
 
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MidgetDwarf said:
Prove that if 0<a<b, then [itex]a < \sqrt{ab} < \frac {a+b} {2} < b [/itex]

Please excuse if format is messy, this is my first time writing in Latex.

Suppose 0<a<b then 0<a+O =a (1). Since a<b we can can rewrite this using (1) which is a+0<b (2).
Adding a to both sides of (2) (closed under addition) we get 2a< a+b (3). Using the multiplicative inverse of 2, (3) now becomes ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ## (4). Using the fact that a<b, ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ##
< ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ## < ## a < \frac {b + b} {2} ## =b. Therefore a<b .

Here is were I am confused. I am missing the step were ## a < \sqrt {ab} ##. Can I say that a*b<a*a=a^2 ?
Then take the square root? If this is true how would I connect it with ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ## ?

Strong criticism welcomed.
MidgetDwarf said:
## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ##
< ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ## < ## a < \frac {b + b} {2} ## =b. Therefore a<b .
Here something went wrong.

For ##\sqrt {ab} \lt \frac {a+b}{2}##, you could use the following:
##(a+b)²>0,\ (a-b)²>0##.
 
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I am thinking that 0<a<b

a<b
## a * a < a * b ##
## \sqrt{a*a} < \sqrt{a*b} ##
## a + b < \sqrt{a*b} + b < \sqrt{b*b} +b= 2*b ##
(a+b)/2 < b ?

I am thinking this is correct.
 
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Samy_A said:
Here something went wrong.

For ##\sqrt {ab} \lt \frac {a+b}{2}##, you could use the following:
##(a+b)²>0,\ (a-b)²>0##.

this come from the fact that if a<b then b^2-a^2= (b-a)(b+a)?
 
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MidgetDwarf said:
I am thinking that 0<a<b

a<b
## a * a < a * b ##
## \sqrt{a*a} < \sqrt{a*b} ##
## a + b < \sqrt{a*b} + b < \sqrt{b*b} +b= 2*b ##
(a+b)/2 < b ?

I am thinking this is correct.
This is needlessly complicated:
##\frac{a+b}{2} \lt \frac{b+b}{2}=b## is all you need for the last inequality.

What I meant with "something went wrong" was about the following:
MidgetDwarf said:
< ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ## < ## a < \frac {b + b} {2} ## =b. Therefore a<b
##\frac {a + b} {2} ## < ## a## is obviously wrong, probably a typo.
MidgetDwarf said:
this come from the fact that if a<b then b^2-a^2= (b-a)(b+a)?
I don't see how that helps you in proving the missing piece: ##\sqrt {ab}< \frac {a + b} {2}##
You could square both sides and calculate the difference. That's where ##(a-b)²>0## will help.
 
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Samy_A said:
This is needlessly complicated:
##\frac{a+b}{2} \lt \frac{b+b}{2}=b## is all you need for the last inequality.

What I meant with "something went wrong" was about the following:
##\frac {a + b} {2} ## < ## a## is obviously wrong, probably a typo.
I don't see how that helps you in proving the missing piece: ##\sqrt {ab}< \frac {a + b} {2}##
You could square both sides and calculate the difference. That's where ##(a-b)²>0## will help.

Ahh very clever would have never thought about (a-b)^2 >0 part. By using this fact, it we just play with addition and subtraction of these terms. Thanks alot.
 
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MidgetDwarf said:
Prove that if 0<a<b, then [itex]a < \sqrt{ab} < \frac {a+b} {2} < b [/itex]

Please excuse if format is messy, this is my first time writing in Latex.

Suppose 0<a<b then 0<a+O =a (1). Since a<b we can can rewrite this using (1) which is a+0<b (2).
Adding a to both sides of (2) (closed under addition) we get 2a< a+b (3). Using the multiplicative inverse of 2, (3) now becomes ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ## (4). Using the fact that a<b, ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ##
< ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ## < ## a < \frac {b + b} {2} ## =b. Therefore a<b .

Here is were I am confused. I am missing the step were ## a < \sqrt {ab} ##. Can I say that a*b<a*a=a^2 ?
Then take the square root? If this is true how would I connect it with ## a < \frac {a + b} {2} ## ?

Strong criticism welcomed.
@MidgetDwarf, in future posts, please don't delete the homework template. Its use is required in problems posted in the Homework sections.
 
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Thanks Mark for informing.
 

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