Standard angles for vectors (Mechanics)

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Joe_mama69
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Homework Statement
Just got done with my first week in phyiscs (mechanics) and I'm pretty confused on to find the standard angle, We are currently learning vectors, and for example we had a problem were we had to calculate R from A and B, A was like 30 degrees in the first qaudrant and B was 36 degrees in the 3rd qaudrant, and he wanted us to use the standard angles when we calcualted the compnents, and somehow he got 60 degrees as the standard angle for A and 216 for B. I understand that he added 180 to 36 to get 216 and subtracted 30 from 90 to get 60, but in another example, A was 35 degrees in the fourth quadrant, and B was 10 degrees in the third quadrant, in which he got 325 as the standard angle of A and 190 for B again I understand that he 10 to 180 to get 190 for B and subtracted 35 from 360 for A, but overall I am confused on when to subtract or add and from which number to add or subtract from. But like in "normal math" the calculations are different like 30 degrees int eh frist quadrant would just be 30 degrees and 35 degrees in the fourth quadrant would be 395 degrees, so whats going on.

Sorry i couldn't figure out how to upload an image here, so heres an imgur link with the two examples i described, they are exactly what my professor wrote on the board, he uses the term standard angle even though I don't think thats a common term used in physics or even math as i couldnt find anything on it.
https://imgur.com/a/7uScK3r
Relevant Equations
x component = magnitude * cos(standard angle)
y component = magnitude * sin(standard angle)
n/a
 
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Joe_mama69 said:
Homework Statement: Just got done with my first week in phyiscs (mechanics) and I'm pretty confused on to find the standard angle, We are currently learning vectors, and for example we had a problem were we had to calculate R from A and B, A was like 30 degrees in the first qaudrant and B was 36 degrees in the 3rd qaudrant....
Hi @Joe_mama69 and welcome to PF.

Your figures are hard to understand without a diagram. For example when you say "B was 36 degrees in the 3rd qaudrant" it's ambiguous. 36º could relative to the -x axis or relative to the -y axis.

Imagine a pointer fixed at the origin and pointing to the right (along the +x axis). That's 0º. Standard angles are then measured anticlockwise (ACW) from this position.

For example:
- rotate the pointer 90º ACW and this direction is 90º (+y axis);
- rotate the pointer another 90º ACW and this direction is 180º (-x axis);
- rotate the pointer another 90º ACW and this direction is 270º (-y axis);
- rotate the pointer another 90º ACW and this direction is 0º (+x axis) (same thing as 360º);

For example, draw the following for yourself:

1.The pointer is in the 3rd quadrant with 36º beetween it and the -x axis, the standard angle is 180º + 36º = 216º.

2. The pointer is in the 3rd quadrant with 36º between it and the -y axis, the standard angle is 270º - 36º = 234º.
 
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Joe_mama69 said:
Homework Statement: Just got done with my first week in phyiscs (mechanics) and I'm pretty confused on to find the standard angle, We are currently learning vectors, and for example we had a problem were we had to calculate R from A and B, A was like 30 degrees in the first qaudrant and B was 36 degrees in the 3rd qaudrant, and he wanted us to use the standard angles when we calcualted the compnents, and somehow he got 60 degrees as the standard angle for A and 216 for B. I understand that he added 180 to 36 to get 216 and subtracted 30 from 90 to get 60, but in another example, A was 35 degrees in the fourth quadrant, and B was 10 degrees in the third quadrant, in which he got 325 as the standard angle of A and 190 for B again I understand that he 10 to 180 to get 190 for B and subtracted 35 from 360 for A, but overall I am confused on when to subtract or add and from which number to add or subtract from. But like in "normal math" the calculations are different like 30 degrees int eh frist quadrant would just be 30 degrees and 35 degrees in the fourth quadrant would be 395 degrees, so whats going on.
Relevant Equations: x component = magnitude * cos(standard angle)
y component = magnitude * sin(standard angle)

n/a
Hello @Joe_mama69 ,
:welcome:##\qquad ##!​

Well, I have never heard of something like 'the standard angle', so I wouldn't know how to find it, or what to do with it. Also, I have never seen any exercise where an angle was given as 'like 30 degrees in the first quadrant'. Is that really the verbatim text in the problem statement ? Or is it your way of describing something like a picture on the blackboard ?

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The standard angle on a unit circle is defined as the angle starting at the positive x-axis and going counterclockwise the to the radius of interest. The arc-length between the positive x-axis and the radius of interest is a measure of the standard angle in radians.

Then it follows that
x component = magnitude * cos(standard angle)
y component = magnitude * sin(standard angle)

See how that matches the diagram you have.
 
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kuruman said:
The standard angle on a unit circle is defined as the angle starting at the positive x-axis and going counterclockwise the the radius of interest. The arc-length between the positive x-axis and the radius of interest is a measure of the standard angle in radians.

Then it follows that
x component = magnitude * cos(standard angle)
y component = magnitude * sin(standard angle)

See how that matches the diagram you have.
ahhh i think i get it now, i think i got confused becuase i thought the 30 degrees meant it would match the exact postion on the unit circle. Thank you so much!
 

1. What are standard angles for vectors in mechanics?

Standard angles for vectors in mechanics refer to the angles that are commonly used to represent and analyze vector quantities in the field of mechanics. These angles are typically measured in degrees or radians and are used to determine the magnitude and direction of a vector.

2. How are standard angles for vectors determined?

Standard angles for vectors are determined by the coordinate system being used. In mechanics, the most commonly used coordinate system is the Cartesian coordinate system, where the x-axis and y-axis are perpendicular to each other. The standard angles for vectors in this system are 0 degrees (along the positive x-axis), 90 degrees (along the positive y-axis), 180 degrees (along the negative x-axis), and 270 degrees (along the negative y-axis).

3. Why are standard angles important in mechanics?

Standard angles are important in mechanics because they provide a standardized way of representing and analyzing vector quantities. By using standard angles, scientists and engineers can easily communicate and compare their findings, which leads to a better understanding of mechanical systems and their behavior.

4. How do standard angles affect the resolution of vectors?

The standard angles for vectors affect the resolution of vectors by determining the components of the vector in the x and y directions. For example, a vector with a magnitude of 5 units and an angle of 30 degrees will have a horizontal component of 5*cos(30) = 4.33 units and a vertical component of 5*sin(30) = 2.5 units.

5. Can standard angles be converted to other units?

Yes, standard angles can be converted to other units such as radians or gradians. Radians are often used in more advanced mathematical calculations, while gradians are used in some engineering applications. To convert from degrees to radians, multiply the degree measure by π/180. To convert from degrees to gradians, multiply the degree measure by 10/9.

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