Star with quadrupole in a binary system violates Newton's 3rd Law?

In summary, in a binary system, one star with a non-zero quadrupole moment will experience an additional force from the quadrupole potential, while the other star will only experience the usual gravity force. This results in an imbalance between action and reaction on the two stars, but it is possible due to Newton's third law. Each star will feel an additional quadrupole term, one due to its own quadrupole moment and the other due to the other star's quadrupole mass distribution.
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If in binary system, one of the two stars has a non-zero quadrupole moment, then the other star feels an additional force. On the other hand, the second star feel only the usual gravity.
Assume that, in a binary system, one (and only one) of the two stars has a non-zero quadrupole moment. Then the other star feels the usual gravity force $F_g$ plus an additional force $F_q$ coming from the quadrupole potential. On the other hand, the first star feels only the usual gravity force $-F_g$. Applying Newton's third principle, however, results in an imbalance between action and reaction on the two stars, since only one of them feels a quadrupole force. How is it possible?
 
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phinds said:
??? Your "reference" is a link to where you can post a new thread. It has nothing in it.
Sorry, there is no reference, I have just deleted the link
 
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andromeda123 said:
there is no reference
As far as I can tell, you are asking us to explain why something is true, but that something isn't true to begin with.
 
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Yeah, you can be sure Newton's third law supercedes your intuition. If you go to calculate the gravitational forces, you will take every point in one star and apply its force to every point in the other star. Since you do that for both the total forces, they always obey Newton's third law. So both stars will feel an additional quadrupole term, one because of what you have, its quadrupole moment produces additional gravity on the other star, and the other because its own quadrupole mass distribution receives an additional force from the other star.
 

1. What is a quadrupole in a binary star system?

A quadrupole refers to the distribution of mass within a celestial body. In a binary star system, the gravitational pull of one star on the other can cause a deformation in the shape of the stars, resulting in a quadrupole moment.

2. How does a star with quadrupole violate Newton's 3rd Law?

Newton's 3rd Law states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. In a binary star system, the gravitational force between the two stars should be equal and opposite, but the presence of a quadrupole moment can cause an imbalance in this force, violating the law.

3. Why is it important to study stars with quadrupole in binary systems?

Studying stars with quadrupole can provide valuable insights into the dynamics of binary star systems and the effects of gravitational forces. It can also help us better understand the laws of physics and how they apply to celestial bodies.

4. Are there any real-life examples of stars with quadrupole in binary systems?

Yes, there are several known binary star systems that exhibit a quadrupole moment, such as the binary star system PSR J0737-3039A/B and the binary white dwarf system SDSS J065133.338+284423.37.

5. Can a star with quadrupole in a binary system eventually lead to a collision between the two stars?

Yes, in some cases, the imbalance in gravitational forces caused by the quadrupole moment can eventually lead to a collision between the two stars. This can result in a merger or explosion, depending on the mass and properties of the stars involved.

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