Statically indeterminate beam problem

In summary: I get the following: $$R_B=\frac{13}{56}WL$$and$$R_C=-\frac{WL}{56}$$In summary, the homework statement is that the beam problem is statically indeterminate.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Beam problem
Deflection
Statically indeterminate

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Am I correct? Or should the assumed deflection at B be the difference in deflection between B and C? Thanks
 

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It looks like you are solving this as the superposition of three separate loadings, but you don't provide enough information (text) about the separate solutions to the three loading problems. Please provide more detailed discussion, rather than just a reference to some table.
 
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Sorry that i forgot to embed the reference here. The two photos are the reference i used.
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Here is the numerical calculation derived from post #1, that i thought you may not need it.
You can just take it as reference.
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Chestermiller said:
Please provide more detailed discussion,
Indeed, i have no idea with how to derive the formula from the cases in the reference. However, do you mind to tell me if my method of utilising the formulae correct?or should the assumed deflection at B be the difference in deflection between B and C? Thanks
 
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What you need to do is express the displacements at B and C in the following form:

$$\delta_B=C_1W+C_2R_B+C_3R_C$$ and $$\delta_C=C_4W+C_5R_B+C_6R_C$$where the subscripted C's are obtained from the solutions to the separate problems in terms of the property- and geometric parameters. You then set ##\delta_B## and ##\delta_C## equal to zero and solve the results pair of linear algebraic equations for the two unknowns, ##R_B## and ##R_C##.
 
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Am i correct to calculate like this? Thanks
 

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sorry for unable to type all my formulae out.
I have got "δ=δW+δRB+δRC+δM" for B and C, for which each are using the formula from reference list.
thank you very much
 
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I get the following: $$\frac{R_B}{24}+5\frac{R_C}{48}=\frac{WL}{128}$$ and
$$5\frac{R_B}{48}+\frac{R_C}{3}=7\frac{WL}{(16)(24)}$$
This simplifies to:
$$R_B+\frac{5}{2}R_C=\frac{3}{16}WL$$and$$\frac{5}{2}R_B+8R_C=\frac{7}{16}WL$$

So, $$R_B=\frac{13}{56}WL$$
and $$R_C=-\frac{WL}{56}$$
 
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Well, the sign of my equations are different from yours, the answer is different...
 

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1. What is a statically indeterminate beam problem?

A statically indeterminate beam problem is a structural engineering problem in which the number of unknown reactions and internal forces is greater than the number of available equations of equilibrium. This means that the problem cannot be solved using traditional methods and requires more advanced techniques.

2. What causes a beam to become statically indeterminate?

There are several factors that can cause a beam to become statically indeterminate, including the use of multiple supports, the presence of hinges or joints, and the incorporation of unequal loading or varying material properties.

3. How is a statically indeterminate beam problem solved?

Solving a statically indeterminate beam problem requires the use of advanced structural analysis techniques such as the slope-deflection method, moment distribution method, or the use of matrix structural analysis software. These methods take into account the additional equations of compatibility and the principle of superposition to solve for the unknown reactions and internal forces.

4. What are the limitations of traditional beam analysis methods?

Traditional beam analysis methods, such as the method of joints and method of sections, are limited in their ability to solve statically indeterminate beam problems. These methods assume that the beam is statically determinate and do not account for the additional equations of equilibrium and compatibility that are necessary for solving indeterminate problems.

5. Why is it important to consider statically indeterminate beams in structural analysis?

Statically indeterminate beams are commonly found in real-world structures, and failure to properly analyze and design these beams can lead to structural instability and potential collapse. It is important to consider statically indeterminate beams in structural analysis to ensure the safety and stability of a structure under various loading conditions.

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