Superluminal Energy Transport & Causality: Does It Violate Relativity?

In summary, in the superluminal light pulse experiments described in the Letter [Nature 406 (2000) 277], the whole pulse intensity profile is advanced by 62 ns without any distortions. This observation suggests that the light pulse energy must be transported faster than the speed of light in vacuum (superluminally). However, this does not violate Einstein’s special theory of relativity, as the experiment is designed to keep the energy and shape of the pulse unchanged. The observed superluminal light pulse propagation is not at odds with causality or special relativity, as it is a result of the Kramers-Kronig relation which is based on the causality requirements of electromagnetic responses.
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In superluminal light pulse experiments, as shown in Fig. 4 of the Letter [Nature 406 (2000) 277], the whole pulse intensity profile observed is advanced by 62 ns nearly without any distortions, and the light pulse energy must be transported faster than the speed of light in vacuum (superluminally). The superluminal energy transport without any losses, observed in their experiments, does not violate Einstein’s special theory of relativity?

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v406/n6793/full/406277a0.html
 
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PFfan01 said:
and the light pulse energy must be transported faster than the speed of light in vacuum (superluminally)
It is not. The material passes energy to the front of the pulse and absorbs energy from the back.
 
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mfb said:
It is not. The material passes energy to the front of the pulse and absorbs energy from the back.
Please give references to support your theory.

According to the Letter [Nature 406 (2000) 277], the probe light pulse is placed in the middle of two gain lines spectrally and it contains no spectral components to be amplified. In other words, the light pulse go through a LOSSLESS anomalous dispersion medium, and there is no energy exchange between the pulse and the medium. From this I don't think your argument:
"The material passes energy to the front of the pulse and absorbs energy from the back."
works.
 
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There is no net gain, but if there would be no energy exchange the pulse would behave like in a vacuum. The reference is the paper you quoted. It is called "gain-assisted" for a good reason and the pulse is not monochromatic (a monochromatic pulse does not have a meaningful group velocity).
 
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mfb said:
... The reference is the paper you quoted. It is called "gain-assisted" for a good reason and the pulse is not monochromatic (a monochromatic pulse does not have a meaningful group velocity).

The Letter [Nature 406 (2000) 277], which I cited, never said "The material passes energy to the front of the pulse and absorbs energy from the back." The authors of the Letter are all experts, but the argument "the material passes energy to the front of the pulse and absorbs energy from the back" does not seem like an expert opinion; I never heard of such theory; so I judge they never said.

"gain-assisted" ----- means using two gain lines to create a lossless anomalous dispersion region. You did not read the Letter.
 
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PFfan01 said:
The Letter [Nature 406 (2000) 277], which I cited, never said "The material passes energy to the front of the pulse and absorbs energy from the back."

It doesn't says it with the same words but it seems that's how it works. Due to different energetic states of the atoms the media can absorb and emit energy. In order to get the described result it needs to emit energy into the front of the pulse and absorb energy from the tail. The experiment is designed to keep energy and shape of the pulse unchanged. In the result the observed group velocity exceeds the speed of light or is even negative but there is no superluminal transfer of energy.
 
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Nonetheless, mfb's explanation is consistent with the mathematical analysis in this paper.
The paper doesn't use those words because it's written for a technical audience not laypeople.

As this thread started with your misunderstanding of the the physics involved, and you have been given the best explanation possible without walking you through the analysis in the paper, this thread is closed.
 
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PFfan01 said:
The superluminal energy transport without any losses, observed in their experiments, does not violate Einstein’s special theory of relativity?
Not according to the authors:
Finally, we note that the observed superluminal light pulse propagation is not at odds with causality or special relativity. In fact, the very existence of the lossless anomalous dispersion region given in equation (1) is a result of the Kramers–Kronig relation which itself is based on the causality requirements of electromagnetic responses.
 

1. What is superluminal energy transport?

Superluminal energy transport refers to the transfer of energy at speeds faster than the speed of light. This concept is highly debated in the scientific community as it challenges the principles of special relativity, which states that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

2. Does superluminal energy transport violate relativity?

Yes, superluminal energy transport is considered to be a violation of relativity. According to Einstein's theory of special relativity, the speed of light is the ultimate speed limit in the universe. Any particles or energy that travel faster than this speed would contradict this fundamental principle.

3. How does superluminal energy transport impact causality?

Superluminal energy transport challenges the principle of causality, which states that an effect must always have a cause that precedes it. With superluminal energy transport, the effect may occur before the cause, leading to a violation of causality.

4. Are there any known examples of superluminal energy transport?

There are currently no known examples of superluminal energy transport. However, some scientists have proposed theoretical concepts, such as quantum tunneling or wormholes, that could potentially allow for superluminal energy transport.

5. What are the implications of superluminal energy transport for our understanding of the universe?

If superluminal energy transport were to exist, it would have significant implications for our understanding of the universe and the laws of physics. It could potentially lead to a complete reevaluation of our current theories and may open up new possibilities for space travel and communication.

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