Superluminal (Tachyon) Transformations

In summary, the book "Time Travel and Warp Drives" discusses a system created by Leonard Parker that allows for Tachyons to respect the "light barrier" and avoid paradoxes. However, this system only works in a two-dimensional spacetime and fails in higher dimensions due to the requirement of more dimensions of time or the introduction of a preferred direction. The significance of a preferred direction is also briefly discussed, but ultimately the theory violates relativity.
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MattRob
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Hey all,
I've been reading "Time Travel and Warp Drives" by Allen Everett and Thomas Roman, and the book had an interesting section on Tachyons. At one point it presented a system Leonard Parker (of the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee) created whereby coordinate transformations for Tachyons could be done that would respect the "light barrier" and avoid paradoxes.

In the context of a "toy" two-dimensional spacetime, instead of having
[itex](ct')^{2}-x'^{2} = (ct)^{2}-x^{2}[/itex]
as regular Lorentzian transformations do, for Tachyons it had
[itex]-(ct')^{2}+x'^{2} = (ct)^{2}-x^{2}[/itex]

The system allowed for Tachyons that wouldn't be able to invoke paradoxes, since Tachyons could, in this model, only travel in the positive [itex]x[/itex] direction, just as regular matter can only travel in the positive [itex]t[/itex] direction, thus it couldn't return to its original point in spacetime and form a closed time-like curve.

This failed in higher dimensions, though, since it either required more dimensions of time so the other two dimensions of space would have something to interchange with, or it would introduce a preferred direction (the positive [itex]x[/itex] axis that acts as "forward in time" for the Tachyons).

My thought was that, "well, but why couldn't the arbitrary direction of its travel act as this [itex]x[/itex]-axis for any specific Tachyon, so it wouldn't be the same for every Tachyon, thus not introduce a preferred frame?"

Later in the text, though, it simply says; "Allen and his collaborators were able to demonstrate, beyond question, that these papers [claiming that it was possible to construct a theory of superluminal coordinate transformations that did not involve the introduction of a preferred direction] were mathematically inconsistent."

It gets my mind thinking on other tangents, and actually wondering about the significance of a preferred direction, and some cosmological models that might somehow be related to such a concept (at least locally, within the Schwarzschild radius of a black hole, such a thing could be said to exist: the direction towards the singularity. Also, forward in time is a preferred direction for regular matter, though time is different from space, and it might be a little "inconsiderate" (ie, uncalled for) to invoke a whole new "arrow of time" problem).

But most immediately, before going off on that tangent; what I'm really asking here is; what about my question, earlier? Why couldn't the direction of travel of any Tachyon be its "preferred" [itex]x[/itex]-axis?
 
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That theory violates relativity.

You can do that, of course (although it would probably be smarter to pick an easier target), but if you are going to violate relativity, why try and solve a problem that is a conclusion of relativity?
 
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MattRob said:
Hey all,
The system allowed for Tachyons that wouldn't be able to invoke paradoxes, since Tachyons could, in this model, only travel in the positive [itex]x[/itex] direction, just as regular matter can only travel in the positive [itex]t[/itex] direction, thus it couldn't return to its original point in spacetime and form a closed time-like curve.
Not allowing closed time-like curves is neither a necessary nor a sufficient condition for a theory to be workable.

But most immediately, before going off on that tangent; what I'm really asking here is; what about my question, earlier? Why couldn't the direction of travel of any Tachyon be its "preferred" [itex]x[/itex]-axis?

Because the preferred direction is not a property of the tachyons, it's a property if the universe that they exist in. Thus, they'd all have to agree about which direction is the preferred direction, which is easy in a universe with one temporal and one spatial dimension but impossible in a three+one universe.

As an aside, the bolded text above was poorly worded, and that may be contributing to your misunderstanding. Transforms don't apply between objects, they apply between coordinate systems; objects don't own these coordinate systems. Thus, instead of saying "its x-axis" you should be saying "the x-axis of the coordinate system we're using, which happens to be the direction that the tachyons are traveling in". It should be clear that you cannot such construct such a coordinate system in three spatial dimensions, but you can in one.
 
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MattRob said:
But most immediately, before going off on that tangent; what I'm really asking here is; what about my question, earlier? Why couldn't the direction of travel of any Tachyon be its "preferred" [itex]x[/itex]-axis?
You need to be able to explain all physics from any frame, not just one thing from each frame.

For the transform they are talking about here you would have something like:
t'=x
x'=t
y'=y
z'=z

That is certainly possible to do and would make things going at v>c in the x direction look "nice", but it would not change any of the actual physics, nor would it make the equations look "nice" for objects going at v>c in any other direction nor for objects going at v<c in the x direction.
 
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I find your question and thoughts on Tachyons and their transformations to be intriguing. It is important to consider all possibilities and potential solutions when exploring the concept of time travel and superluminal travel. However, it is also important to approach these ideas with a critical and scientific mindset.

Regarding your question about the direction of travel for Tachyons, while it may seem logical to assign a preferred direction for each individual Tachyon, it ultimately goes against the fundamental principles of relativity. The concept of a preferred frame of reference goes against the idea that all frames of reference are equally valid and that there is no absolute frame of reference in the universe. Introducing a preferred direction for Tachyons would violate this principle and create inconsistencies in the mathematical models.

Furthermore, as you mentioned, this approach has been mathematically shown to be inconsistent. As scientists, we rely on mathematical models and theories to accurately describe and predict the behavior of the universe. If a theory or model is found to be mathematically inconsistent, it is not considered a viable explanation.

While your thoughts and questions are valid and thought-provoking, the answer to your question lies within the fundamental principles of relativity and the scientific method. It is important to continue exploring and questioning these concepts, but also to approach them with a critical and scientific mindset.
 

1. What are Superluminal (Tachyon) Transformations?

Superluminal (Tachyon) Transformations refer to the theoretical concept of particles traveling faster than the speed of light (superluminal speeds). This idea is based on the theory of special relativity and has not been proven to exist.

2. How do Superluminal (Tachyon) Transformations differ from regular transformations?

Superluminal (Tachyon) Transformations are different from regular transformations because they involve particles traveling faster than the speed of light, which is thought to be impossible according to the theory of special relativity. Regular transformations are limited to the speed of light.

3. Are Superluminal (Tachyon) Transformations possible?

Currently, Superluminal (Tachyon) Transformations are only a theoretical concept and have not been proven to exist in reality. However, some scientists believe that it may be possible under certain conditions, but more research and evidence is needed to confirm this.

4. What are the implications of Superluminal (Tachyon) Transformations if they are possible?

If Superluminal (Tachyon) Transformations are possible, it would challenge our understanding of physics and the laws of the universe. It could also potentially open up the possibility of faster-than-light travel and communication.

5. How are Superluminal (Tachyon) Transformations related to time travel?

Some scientists theorize that if Superluminal (Tachyon) Transformations are possible, they could also lead to the possibility of time travel. This idea is based on the concept of time dilation, where time can slow down or speed up for an object traveling at high speeds. However, this is still a highly debated topic and has not been proven to be true.

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