Supposly simple balistic motion prob

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In summary, the conversation discusses the correct angle, θ=56.92, for throwing a ball at V0=15 m/s in order for it to hit the ground 21m away. It is found that 2θ=66.16+2∏k, and so θ=33.08+∏k, but θ=56.92 is also a valid answer. The property of sine, sin (∏ - a) = sin a, is mentioned as a way to understand why angles separated by less than 2∏ have the same value. It is also noted that this property comes from the definition of the sine function on the unit circle.
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At what angle relative to the horizon should you throw a ball at V0=15 m/s (from the ground of course) in order for it to hit back the ground a distance of 21m away?

I found that 2θ=66.16+2∏k, and so θ=33.08+∏k, but the truth is that θ=56.92 is also a correct answer! How could I get this answer from the equations??

x(t)=Vocosθt
y(t)=0 at hit so: 0=Vosinθt-0.5gt^2 ... t(impact) = 2V0sinθ/g or 0

back to x: 21=(2sinθcosθVo^2)/g = sin2θ*V0^2 / g and so sin2θ=21g/V0^2
 
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This follows from sin x = sin (∏ - x).
 
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voko said:
This follows from sin x = sin (∏ - x).

wow you're right... so why do we say sin has a period of 2∏ if we can see that angles that are separated less than 2∏ have the same value?
 
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f(x) is said to be a-periodic if f(x) = f(x + a). For f(x) = sin x, this works when a = 2∏.

f(x) = f(a - x) is a different property, not periodicity.
 
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voko said:
f(x) is said to be a-periodic if f(x) = f(x + a). For f(x) = sin x, this works when a = 2∏.

f(x) = f(a - x) is a different property, not periodicity.

ok so what is this property? where does it come from?
 
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assaftolko said:
ok so what is this property? where does it come from?

I am not sure whether it has a special name. You could say that it comes from the definition the sine function on the unit circle. Then it is obvious that the ordinate at some angle a equals the ordinate at (∏ - a).

Another way to see this is by using the identity sin (∏ - a) = sin ∏ cos a - cos ∏ sin a = sin a, because sin ∏ = 0, and cos ∏ = -1.
 
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voko said:
I am not sure whether it has a special name. You could say that it comes from the definition the sine function on the unit circle. Then it is obvious that the ordinate at some angle a equals the ordinate at (∏ - a).

Another way to see this is by using the identity sin (∏ - a) = sin ∏ cos a - cos ∏ sin a = sin a, because sin ∏ = 0, and cos ∏ = -1.

tnx a lot!
 

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