Throwing a ball: Parabolic motion

In summary, in this conversation, the person asks for help with a physics problem involving a ball being thrown off the side of a building at an initial velocity of 20 m/s at a 30 degree angle. The problem asks for the total height the ball reaches, the height it reaches above the building, the x-displacement from the base of the building, and the velocity at which it hits the ground. The expert suggests splitting the velocity into x and y components and using the equations v = Vo + at and Ymax = Vot + (1/2)at^2 to find the answers. They also remind the person to only consider the y velocities and set the final velocity
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Hopefully I learned a few things from the previous thread and got some of this right.

Homework Statement


Refer to the diagram. The ball is thrown with the parameters given on the diagram. a) Compute the total height the ball reaches and the height the ball will reach above the building. b) Compute the x-displacement the ball reaches from the base of the building. c) With what velocity does the ball hit the ground?
Height of building = 45.0m
Initial velocity = 20.0 m/s
Angle thrown = 30.0 degrees

Homework Equations


Ymax = Vot + (1/2)at^2
V = sqrt Vx^2 + Vy^2
Quadratic
Delta(y) = Voy(time) - (1/2)gt^2

The Attempt at a Solution



a) v = Vo + at
0 = 20 + (-9.8)t
-20 = -9.8t
t = 2.04s

Ymax = Vot + 1/2 at^2
20(2.04) + 1/2 (9.8)(4.16)
40.8+20.38 = 61.18m

61.18 - 45 = 16.18m

b) Vox = Vo Cos(Theta) = (20m/s)(cos30) = 17.3 m/s
Voy = Vo Sin(Theta) = (20m/s)(sin30) = 10 m/s

Delta(y) = Voy t - 1/2gt^2
-45 = (10m/s)t + (-4.9)t^2
-4.9t^2 + 10t + 45 = 0
4.9t^2 - 10t - 45 = 0
x = 10 + sqrt 100-4(4.9(-45)/9.8
x = 10 + sqrt 100+882/9.8
x = 10 + 31.34/9.8
x = 4.22 seconds

Vo Cos(Theta)t = (20m/s)(cos30)(4.22)
= (20)(.866)(4.22)
= 73.09m

c)
Vy = Vo Sin(Theta) - gt
= (20 m/s)(1/2) - (9.8)(4.22)
= 10 m/s - 41.36 = -31.4 m/s

V = sqrt Vx^2 + Vy^2
= sqrt (17.3)^2 + (-31.4)^2
= sqrt 299.30 + 985.96
= sqrt 1285.26
= 35.85 m/s
 
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You seem to have forgotten your diagram, I assume the guy is throwing the ball from the top of the building?
 
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SHISHKABOB said:
You seem to have forgotten your diagram, I assume the guy is throwing the ball from the top of the building?

Yes, sorry, I'm not aware of how I can attach a diagram so I added the important values after the directions.

To answer your question, yes, he is throwing it straight off the side of the building at 20 m/s at a 30 degree angle.
 
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it looks like you have the right idea about splitting the velocity into x and y components, except in part a the total time you've figured out is the time it would take for the ball to reach its peak if he threw the ball straight up at 20m/s.

The acceleration due to gravity points straight down, and doesn't point at all into the x direction. This means that only velocities in the y direction will be affected, while velocities in the x direction will remain constant.
 
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SHISHKABOB said:
it looks like you have the right idea about splitting the velocity into x and y components, except in part a the total time you've figured out is the time it would take for the ball to reach its peak if he threw the ball straight up at 20m/s.

The acceleration due to gravity points straight down, and doesn't point at all into the x direction. This means that only velocities in the y direction will be affected, while velocities in the x direction will remain constant.

Bummer. >< Any tips as to what else I could try?
 
  • #6
well, if you consider that only the y velocity is changing, and it will be decreasing, then at some point your ball will reach a peak and then start heading back down. We don't need to worry about the x velocity if we want to find the time. It's similar to your last problem, find the time it takes for the ball to reach zero velocity in the y direction, but make sure you consider only the initial velocity in the y direction.

actually you don't even need to worry about time, if you just want to find the height that it reaches when its y velocity equals zero

you might find this equation helpful:

v2 = v02 + 2a(x-x0)

but remember to consider only the y velocities
 

1. What is parabolic motion and how does it relate to throwing a ball?

Parabolic motion is the path that a thrown object takes when influenced by gravity. It is a curved path that looks like a parabola. When a ball is thrown, it follows a parabolic motion due to the force of gravity pulling it towards the ground.

2. How is the angle of release important in throwing a ball with parabolic motion?

The angle of release is crucial in determining the trajectory of the ball. If the ball is released at a lower angle, it will travel a shorter distance but have a higher arc. On the other hand, a higher release angle will result in a longer distance but a flatter trajectory.

3. What factors affect the distance and height of a ball thrown with parabolic motion?

The distance and height of a ball thrown with parabolic motion are affected by the initial velocity, angle of release, and air resistance. A higher initial velocity and a lower angle of release will result in a longer distance and higher height. Air resistance can also affect the distance and height by slowing down the ball's motion.

4. Can a ball thrown with parabolic motion reach the same height on its way up and down?

Yes, a ball thrown with parabolic motion can reach the same height on its way up and down. This is because gravity acts on the ball in the same way during both phases of its motion, causing it to follow a symmetrical path.

5. How can we calculate the maximum height and distance of a ball thrown with parabolic motion?

The maximum height and distance of a ball thrown with parabolic motion can be calculated using the equations for projectile motion. The maximum height is determined by the initial velocity, angle of release, and acceleration due to gravity. The maximum distance is influenced by these same factors, as well as the time of flight.

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