Total mass-energy v nature of forces, particles

In summary, the standard model in both cosmology and particle physics suggests that there is no causal connection between the total mass-energy of the universe and the characteristics of forces and force-carrier particles. However, changes in the coupling strength or boson masses could lead to a different distribution of energy and ultimately affect the total energy density of the universe. There are different theories, such as vacuum genesis, which suggest a connection between the nature of particles and the constants and laws of the universe. However, the most widely accepted explanation is the LambdaCDM bounce, which proposes that the universe began expanding with a bounce from a contracting phase, with the same laws and constants that we observe today.
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What does the standard model have to say about the relationship between the total mass-energy of the universe and the characteristics of forces and force-carrier particles?

That is, if the total mass-energy were different, would the nature, strength, … of the forces and force-carrier particles be different?

Alternatively, would the nature of forces and particles be different at this point in time if the total mass-energy density of the universe were different at this point in time?

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Which standard model, cosmology or particle physics?
tempus said:
That is, if the total mass-energy were different, would the nature, strength, … of the forces and force-carrier particles be different?
There is no known causal connection in this direction.
The opposite direction is true: different coupling strength or boson masses would have lead to a different distribution of the energy, which then leads to a different total energy density due to the expansion of space (it also leads to a different expansion history).
 
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Thank you, mfb.

Standard model of both as a baseline.

In broader terms, I'm interested in insights from a physics / physicalist / materialist perspective (cosmology, particle physics) into the philosophical question of the one and the many, and how the character of particles are related (causally or in a more general sense of relation) to the character of the whole.

Any further insights would be appreciated.
 
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We tend not to wander into philosophy of science, it is usually becomes polarizing and counterproductive.
 
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I should have followed up more directly on mfb's helpful response.

Iiuc, vacuum genesis (zero-point universe) is not part of the standard model of cosmology. But under that theory, the nature of the quantum fluctuation generating the universe would affect the nature of the constants, laws and, therefore, nature of particles. Correct?
 
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"Vacuum genesis" is soooooo speculative, Tempus! You get immediately into a philosophical wonderland. There must be dozens of different scenarios or ways people imagine "vacuum genesis", some producing entirely different constants, if that interests you.

Here's a simpler explanation for the start of our universe' expansion, where we get exactly these constants and laws that we see.

Also we get the observable homogeneity and CMB fluctuations, and we don't even need an "inflaton" field---a popular but problematical bit of exotica.

Just google: "LambdaCDM bounce" and look at the paper by Edward Wilson-Ewing and Yi-fu Cai with approximately that title. LambdaCDM is the technical term, as you probably know, for the standard cosmic model.

the LamdaCDM universe we see around us could (most simply) have started expanding with a bounce--- from the same universe in a contracting phase, with the same laws.

No philosophy, no drama. Make up more complex stories at your own risk, but at least check out the simplest scenario. It came out in December 2014, as I recall.

Ed Wilson-Ewing was the winner of this year's Bronstein Prize, partly in recognition for this work.
 

1. What is the total mass-energy of the universe?

The total mass-energy of the universe is estimated to be around 10^80 Joules. This includes both visible matter, such as stars and galaxies, and dark matter and energy which make up the majority of the mass-energy in the universe.

2. What are the four fundamental forces of nature?

The four fundamental forces of nature are gravity, electromagnetism, strong nuclear force, and weak nuclear force. These forces govern the interactions between particles and play a crucial role in the structure and behavior of matter.

3. How do particles interact with each other?

Particles interact with each other through the four fundamental forces. For example, gravity causes particles with mass to attract each other, while the strong and weak nuclear forces are responsible for interactions between subatomic particles within the nucleus of an atom.

4. What is the relationship between mass and energy?

According to Einstein's famous equation, E=mc^2, there is a direct relationship between mass and energy. This means that mass can be converted into energy and vice versa. In fact, the mass of an object is a form of stored energy.

5. How do scientists study the nature of forces and particles?

Scientists use a variety of tools and techniques to study the nature of forces and particles. This includes particle accelerators, which allow us to smash particles together at high speeds to observe their interactions, as well as theoretical models and computer simulations.

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