Understanding Killing Vector Equation Notation

In summary, the conversation discusses the meaning of parentheses in the killing vector equation and how they relate to symmetrization. The correct form of the equation is also provided.
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The killing vector equation reads: ##\nabla_{(\mu K_{\nu}) = 0## What do the parenthesis mean explicitly?
Hi all,

The killing vector equation reads: ##\nabla_{(\mu K_{\nu})} = 0## What do the parenthesis mean explicitly?

Moreover, I know that ##\nabla_\mu x^\nu = \partial_\mu x^\nu+ \Gamma_{\rho \mu}^\nu x^\rho##

So if the parentheses mean symmetric the Killing equation will read:

##\frac{1}{2} ( \partial_\mu k_\nu + \partial_\nu k_\mu) - \Gamma_{\nu \mu}^\rho k^\rho##

Is this correct?
 
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You have mismatched curly braces that are breaking the Latex... you should be able to to edit the post to fix that, but of you are having trouble let me or any of the other mentors know and we can help.
 
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I guess, you wanted to write ##\partial_{(\mu} K_{\nu)}## then it usually means "symmetrization", i.e., for 2nd-rank tensor components it means
$$A_{(\mu \nu)}=\frac{1}{2}(A_{\mu \nu}+A_{\nu \mu}).$$
 
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John Greger said:
Summary:: The killing vector equation reads: ##\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = 0## What do the parenthesis mean explicitly?

Hi all,

The killing vector equation reads: ##\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = 0## What do the parenthesis mean explicitly?

Moreover, I know that ##\nabla_\mu x^\nu = \partial_\mu x^\nu+ \Gamma_{\rho \mu}^\nu x^\rho##
So if the parentheses mean symmetric the Killing equation will read:

##\frac{1}{2} ( \partial_\mu k_\nu + \partial_\nu k_\mu) - \Gamma_{\nu \mu}^\rho k^\rho##

Is this correct?

No, it is not correct, you have an index mismatch since your ##\rho## appears twice as a covariant index. Because of this it cannot be the correct expression. The ##\rho## on the vector component should be lowered. In other words:
$$
\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = \frac{1}{2} ( \partial_\mu k_\nu + \partial_\nu k_\mu) - \Gamma_{\nu \mu}^\rho k^\rho = 0.
$$
 
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Orodruin said:
In other words:
$$
\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = \frac{1}{2} ( \partial_\mu k_\nu + \partial_\nu k_\mu) - \Gamma_{\nu \mu}^\rho k^\rho = 0.
$$
This doesn't seem correct either.
 
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Well, isn't
$$\nabla_{\mu} K_{\nu}=\partial_{\mu} K_{\nu} - \Gamma^{\rho}_{\mu \nu} K_{\rho}$$
and then
$$\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = \frac{1}{2} (\partial_{\mu} K_{\nu} + \partial_{\nu} K_{\mu}) -\Gamma^{\rho}_{\mu \nu} K_{\rho}?$$
So @Orodruin is right, except that he forgot to lower the index in the last term too :-).
 
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vanhees71 said:
except that he forgot to lower the index in the last term too :-).
The connection between brain and fingers sometimes does not work ... I blame copy-paste.
 
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1. What is the Killing vector equation notation?

The Killing vector equation notation is a mathematical framework used in differential geometry to describe symmetries in a space. It is used to find solutions to the Killing equations, which describe vector fields that preserve the metric of a space.

2. Why is understanding Killing vector equation notation important?

Understanding Killing vector equation notation is important because it allows scientists to study the symmetries of a space and find solutions to the Killing equations. This can be applied in various fields such as general relativity, quantum mechanics, and fluid dynamics.

3. How is the Killing vector equation notation used in physics?

In physics, the Killing vector equation notation is used to describe symmetries in a space, which can help in solving equations and understanding the behavior of physical systems. For example, in general relativity, Killing vector fields are used to describe the symmetries of a spacetime, which can help in solving Einstein's field equations.

4. What are some common applications of Killing vector equation notation?

Killing vector equation notation has various applications in different fields of physics, including general relativity, quantum mechanics, and fluid dynamics. It is also used in other areas such as computer graphics, optimization, and image processing.

5. Are there any limitations to the Killing vector equation notation?

While the Killing vector equation notation is a powerful tool in studying symmetries in a space, it has some limitations. It can only be applied to spaces with a well-defined metric, and it may not work in spaces with non-constant curvature or singularities. Additionally, finding solutions to the Killing equations can be challenging in some cases.

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