Vector Proof: Solving for IuI and IvI using Dot Product Properties

In summary, the conversation is about using properties of the dot product to prove a statement involving vectors. The person asking for help is unsure of where to start, but with the use of the distributive law and clarification on the definition of the dot product in different spaces, they were able to figure it out.
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I am having trouble with this proof. I just need a step in the right direction. Let u and v be vectors.
(u+v)*(u-v)=0, then IuI=IvI I have to use properties of the dot product.
I started off by combining both using this property u*(v+w)=u*v+u*w (u,v,w are vectors)
I got lost in all of my mess, after I combined them. Was this a good place to start? I am just so lost right now.
 
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What is your definition of the dot product? In what space are you working? I assume ##\mathbb{R}^n##
 
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Use the distributive law step by step: ##(u+v)\cdot (u-v)= u\cdot (u-v) + v\cdot (u-v)##.
 
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Yes I am
Math_QED said:
What is your definition of the dot product? In what space are you working? I assume ##\mathbb{R}^n##
 
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fresh_42 said:
Use the distributive law step by step: ##(u+v)\cdot (u-v)= u\cdot (u-v) + v\cdot (u-v)##.

That helps a lot actually I think I know how to do it now.
 
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Math_QED said:
What is your definition of the dot product? In what space are you working? I assume ##\mathbb{R}^n##
Does it make a difference if i am working in Rn ?
 
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Yes, it does for the definition of ##|u|## as ##\sqrt{u\cdot u}##. In ##\mathbb{C}^n## it would be ##\sqrt{u \cdot \overline{u}}## with complex conjugation in one factor.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Yes, it does for the definition of ##|u|## as ##\sqrt{u\cdot u}##. In ##\mathbb{C}^n## it would be ##\sqrt{u \cdot \overline{u}}## with complex conjugation in one factor.
I am confused now..
 
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If we have a vector ##u=\begin{bmatrix}1\\2\end{bmatrix}## then ##|u|^2=u\cdot u = 1^2 +2^2 = 5## with the length ##\sqrt{5}##.
If we consider ##u=\begin{bmatrix}i\\2\end{bmatrix}## then the same formula would result in ##|u|^2=u\cdot u = i^2 +2^2 = -1 + 4 = 3## which is wrong, as I didn't actually change the length at all. So in this case the calculation goes ##|u|^2=u \cdot \overline{u}= i\cdot (-i) +2^2 = 5##.
 
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Do you still need help?

##(u+v).(u-v) = 0 \iff (u+v).u - (u+v).v = 0 \iff u.u + v.u - u.v - v.v = 0 \iff \dots##
 
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I got it just got distracted ...
 

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