What if Luders Bands do NOT show up as expected?

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In summary, when testing low alloy steel at room temperature, Luders Bars are expected to appear, causing a clear Upper Yield Point and Yield Point Elongation on the tensile graph. However, in some cases, only elastic and plastic phases are shown, without the presence of Luders Bands. This has led to questions about the validity of the test and the suitability of the material. The occurrence of Luders Bands seems to be affected by the proximity of the samples, suggesting a local factor in the material. Notably, the presence of Luders Bands does not significantly affect the yield and ultimate strength values. According to a source, well annealed low carbon steel alloys may provide further insight into this phenomenon.
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Hello,

Luders Bars are expected to show up when testing at room temperature tensile specimens made of low alloy steel. The tensile graph will therefore CLEARLY show an Upper Yield Point and a Yield Point Elongation between the elastic and the elastoplastic phases.

But what if this doesn't happen, and the graphs only shows elastic and plastic phases, one after the other?
This is currently happening in numerous occasions
Which are the possible interpretations or reasons?
Should the test be invalidated?
Should the material be considered NOT suitable?

Please note that NOT ALL the samples coming from the same block of steel and extracted one near the others show this behaviour. Nevertheless, in some cases it happened.
It is likely that proximity has a role then, therefore there might be something locally in the material which can justify this behaviour. But What exactly?

Last information: yield and ultimate strength values don't show any significant difference in respect of the presence or not of the Luders Bands

thanks in advance for your help
 
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1. What are Luders Bands and why are they expected to show up?

Luders Bands are a type of deformation pattern that occurs in a material when it is subjected to stress. They are expected to show up because they are a common phenomenon in materials that exhibit plastic deformation.

2. What factors can cause Luders Bands to not show up as expected?

There are several factors that can affect the appearance of Luders Bands, including the type of material, the level of stress applied, and the presence of impurities or defects in the material.

3. Can the absence of Luders Bands indicate a problem with the material?

Not necessarily. The absence of Luders Bands may simply mean that the material is not undergoing plastic deformation. It could also indicate that the material is of high quality and is able to resist plastic deformation.

4. Is it possible for Luders Bands to show up at a later stage of testing?

Yes, Luders Bands may not be present initially but can develop over time as the material continues to experience stress. This is particularly true in materials that exhibit delayed yielding.

5. How can the absence of Luders Bands affect the overall testing results?

The absence of Luders Bands may affect the accuracy of the testing results, as the presence of these bands can indicate the point at which the material begins to yield and deform. Without this visual indicator, it may be more difficult to determine the exact yield point of the material.

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