What is the Relationship Between Position and Velocity Vectors?

In summary, the conversation discusses solving for time given a vectorial velocity and a position vector. It is mentioned that dividing by a vector is not defined and that there is no variable t that satisfies the equation \vec{v} = \frac{d\vec{r}}{dt}. It is suggested to use integration to solve for t. The conversation also touches on the concept of modulus of vectors and the existence of derivatives with respect to vectors and matrices.
  • #1
Jhenrique
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If:
[tex]\vec{v}=\frac{\mathrm{d} \vec{r}}{\mathrm{d} t}[/tex]
so:
[tex]\\ \vec{v} = \frac{d\vec{r}}{dt} \\ \\ \vec{v}\;dt = d\vec{r} \\ \\ dt = \frac{d\vec{r}}{\vec{v}} \\ \\ \int dt = \int \frac{d\vec{r}}{\vec{v}} \\ \\ t = \int \frac{d\vec{r}}{\vec{v}}[/tex]
Is true?
Solving the equation for time t, is need divide the position vector r by velocicty vector v... But I don't know do division between vectors...
 
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  • #2
Division by a vector is not defined.

It appears you are trying to solve some problem and you thought this might be a way to attack that problem. What is the problem that are you trying to solve?
 
  • #3
Given a vectorial velocity and a position vector, I want to calcule o time t.
In other words, I want solving the equation above for variable t.
[tex]\\ \vec{v} = \frac{d\vec{r}}{dt}[/tex]
 
  • #4
In general, if you are given [itex]\vec{v}[/itex] and [itex]\frac{d\vec{r}}{dt}[/itex], there will NOT BE a variable t such that [tex]\vec{v}= \frac{d\vec{r}}{dt}[/tex]!

You can try [tex]\int \vec{v}dt= \int\vec{dr}[/tex] and then solve the resulting equation for t.
 
  • #5
[itex] \vec{r} \vec{u}= \vec{r} \frac{d\vec{r}}{dt}[/itex]
[itex]\vec{r} \vec{u} =\frac{1}{2} \frac{dr^{2}}{dt}[/itex]
[itex]dt= \frac{dr^{2}}{\vec{r} \vec{u}}=\frac{dr^{2}}{ru cosθ}[/itex]

is that correct?
 
  • #6
In this case, the only solution is to consider the modulus of vectos: t = ∫ 1/v dr. Correct!?
 

Related to What is the Relationship Between Position and Velocity Vectors?

What is the Relationship Between Position and Velocity Vectors?

The position and velocity vectors are mathematical representations of an object's location and motion, respectively. They are related through the concept of derivatives, where the velocity vector is the derivative of the position vector with respect to time.

How are Position and Velocity Vectors Calculated?

Position and velocity vectors are typically calculated using mathematical equations and formulas based on an object's position and motion data. This data can be obtained through various methods such as measurements, observations, or simulations.

What Does the Direction of a Velocity Vector Indicate?

The direction of a velocity vector indicates the direction in which an object is moving at a specific moment in time. This direction is commonly represented by an arrow, with the arrowhead pointing in the direction of motion.

What Happens to the Velocity Vector When an Object Changes Direction?

When an object changes direction, the velocity vector also changes direction. This is because the velocity vector is a representation of an object's instantaneous motion, and any change in motion will result in a change in the velocity vector's direction.

Can the Relationship Between Position and Velocity Vectors be Applied to Any Object?

Yes, the relationship between position and velocity vectors can be applied to any object, as long as there is a way to measure its position and motion data. This applies to both macroscopic objects, such as cars and planets, and microscopic objects, such as atoms and particles.

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