Where's my mistake? (Lorentz Transformation for a moving spaceship)

In summary, the conversation discusses the correct use of Einstein's addition rule in relation to a stable star and a moving spaceship. It explains how velocity changes relative to a moving frame, taking into account time dilation and Lorentz contraction. The conversation also provides equations for calculating velocity in the vertical and horizontal directions, and emphasizes the importance of considering time in addition to distance. A question is posed at the end, asking for the resulting equation when using the known values of cosine and sine. The speaker also notes a possible typo in the conversation.
  • #1
Efeguleroglu
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Homework Statement
There is a spaceship moving in the +x direction gets a signal from a source on xy plane. From the reference frame of stable stars, the speed of the spaceship is v and the angle that signal creates between x axis and its direction when reached the spaceship is θ. Get help from lorentz transformations and find out the angle θ in the reference frame of spaceship.
Relevant Equations
x'=(x-vt)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
I didn't use but maybe: t'=(t-(vx)/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
That's what I found. But the answer is arctan(sinθ*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)/(cosθ+v/c))
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Rough sketch:
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$$tan \theta = \frac{y}{x}$$

It is correct but then you don't seem to be using Einstein addition rule correctly. Also note that ##y## and ##x## correspond to the components of the beam's velocity in the ##y## and ##x## directions.

I have labeled the stable star as the rest frame ##S## and the (rectangular) spaceship as the moving frame ##\bar S##.

The key here is noticing that the velocity changes relative to a moving frame not only due to distances (Lorentz contraction) but due to time (time dilation) as well.

The velocity in the ##y## (vertical) direction changes as follows (from ##S## to ##\bar S##):

$$\bar u_y = \frac{d \bar y}{d \bar t} = \frac{d y}{\gamma (dt -v/c^2 dx)} = \frac{u_y}{\gamma (1 -v/c^2 u_x)}$$

Note that there's no Lorentz contraction along ##y## because the spaceship moves along ##x##.

The velocity in the ##x## (horizontal) direction changes as follows (from ##S## to ##\bar S##):

$$\bar u_x = \frac{d \bar x}{d \bar t} = \frac{\gamma(d x - v dt)}{\gamma (dt -v/c^2 dx)} = \frac{u_x -v}{\gamma (1 -v/c^2 u_x)}$$

Knowing that:

$$tan \bar \theta = \frac{\bar u_y}{\bar u_x} = \frac{u_y}{\gamma(u_x -v)}$$

And ##cos\theta = \frac{u_x}{c}## and ##sin\theta = \frac{u_y}{c}##... What do you get? ;)

Please let me know if something is unclear.
 
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Shouldn't dt's are equal?
 
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Typo indeed. Let me fix it.
 

1. What is the Lorentz Transformation?

The Lorentz Transformation is a mathematical formula used in Einstein's theory of relativity to describe the relationship between space and time for objects moving at high speeds. It takes into account the effects of time dilation and length contraction.

2. What is a moving spaceship in the context of the Lorentz Transformation?

In the context of the Lorentz Transformation, a moving spaceship refers to an object or observer that is traveling at a significant fraction of the speed of light relative to another object or observer. This is used as an example to demonstrate the effects of the Lorentz Transformation.

3. What is the purpose of the Lorentz Transformation in relation to a moving spaceship?

The purpose of the Lorentz Transformation in relation to a moving spaceship is to accurately describe the differences in space and time measurements between the spaceship and a stationary observer. It allows for a better understanding of how objects behave at high speeds and explains the concept of relativity.

4. How does the Lorentz Transformation account for time dilation and length contraction?

The Lorentz Transformation takes into account the relative velocity between two objects and uses this to adjust the measurements of time and length for each object. This accounts for the effects of time dilation, where time appears to slow down for an object in motion, and length contraction, where an object appears shorter when moving at high speeds.

5. What are some real-world applications of the Lorentz Transformation?

The Lorentz Transformation is a fundamental concept in Einstein's theory of relativity, which has been verified by numerous experiments and is used in many real-world applications. This includes GPS technology, particle accelerators, and space travel. It is also used in the development of theories in physics, such as quantum mechanics and string theory.

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