Why do people use a centrifugal force

In summary, many people believe that there is a centrifugal force that is caused by the Earth's rotation, when in reality this force is an artefact of a rotating reference frame. This misunderstanding is caused by the naming conventions for forces in physics.
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So I was doing a research paper on the differences of gravity at various places on the Earth, and I found a few sites and videos that tried to explain that a centrifugal force caused by the Earth's rotation was a cause for the disparity in gravitational acceleration at various places on the Earth.

Yet, in physics class, we are taught that in Centripetal motion, there is no such thing as a centrifugal force. So why do so many people believe that there is and post incorrect information online.

Don't they know that centrifugal force is a pseudo force only talked about to explain the apparent force that seems to push one outwards. For example, when we drive a car and we go around a curve we feel like we are being pushed outwards, but that is really just inertia and not a real force.

Am I the only that gets bothered by the lack of scientific accuracy by people who claim to be "scientists" explaining things that are wrong and thus spreading misinformation?
 
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Of course there is such thing as a centrifugal force. That it's an artefact of a rotating reference frame doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If you analyse a system from such a frame, then you have to include it. You have to include it, to make the description equivalent to that from an inertial reference frame.
The key word here is 'equivalent' - descriptions in both a rotating and a non-rotating reference frame are valid. One does not include fictitious forces, but it doesn't mean it's somehow 'fake'.
 
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This xkcd comes to mind:

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Bandersnatch said:
Of course there is such thing as a centrifugal force. That it's an artefact of a rotating reference frame doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If you analyse a system from such a frame, then you have to include it. You have to include it, to make the description equivalent to that from an inertial reference frame.
The key word here is 'equivalent' - descriptions in both a rotating and a non-rotating reference frame are valid. One does not include fictitious forces, but it doesn't mean it's somehow 'fake'.

I know not what you talk about with this "centrifugal force" thingy, nor your "rotating reference frame" thingamajiggy.

Neither of those exist on a well designed merry go round.

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BobG said:
a well designed merry go round.
Ugh. The despicable engineers and their physics-defying machines. How do these even work?!
 
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We do get this question fairly often. It is an unfortunate quirk of physics naming conventions. Similarly, "imaginary" numbers are real/exist and the "charm" quark does not speak in a British accent.
 
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1) Why is centrifugal force important?

Centrifugal force is important because it is a fundamental concept in physics that helps explain the motion of objects in a rotating reference frame. It is also used in many real-life applications, such as centrifuges, washing machines, and amusement park rides.

2) How does centrifugal force work?

Centrifugal force is an apparent force that appears to push an object away from the center of rotation. This is due to the inertia of the object, which causes it to resist changes in its motion. As the object moves in a circular path, it experiences a centripetal force towards the center, and the centrifugal force is the equal and opposite reaction to this force.

3) Why do people use centrifugal force in experiments?

In experiments, scientists use centrifugal force to separate different components of a mixture based on their density. This is possible because the centrifugal force causes the denser components to move towards the outer edge of the rotating apparatus, while the less dense components stay closer to the center.

4) Can centrifugal force be controlled?

Yes, the magnitude and direction of centrifugal force can be controlled by changing the speed of rotation and the distance from the center of rotation. This is why centrifuges have adjustable settings to accommodate different types of experiments.

5) Is centrifugal force a real force?

No, centrifugal force is not a true force in the classical sense. It is an apparent force that arises due to the motion of an object in a rotating reference frame. However, it is still a useful concept for explaining and predicting the behavior of objects in rotational motion.

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