Why do transformers use AC currents in the primary coil?

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of a.c current in transformers and whether it is necessary to generate magnetic fields. The participants also discuss Faraday's law and its implications on the production of voltage in changing magnetic fields. The conversation concludes with the understanding that a constant voltage applied to a circuit does not produce a variable field, and the current in a real transformer is limited by the coil's resistance.
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sarahwill
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Hello.
If we assume an ideal transformer, why do we use a.c current in a transformer? I've searched and answers are that we need a changing electric current to produce a change in magnetic flux, using Ampere's law.
However, Faraday's law states that a voltage produced a changing magnetic flux as well. Isn't there a voltage across the primary coil for current to flow, that would cause a changing magnetic flux? I have tried the maths, and deduced the transformer equation.

If the primary voltage V is the negative of the rate of change of magnetic flux -dø/dt multiplied by the number of coils in the primary coil, then V = -Ndø/dt. But this changing magnetic flux would also induce a current in the secondary coil. If v is the secondary voltage, and n the secondary number of turns, then v = -ndø/dt. Taking the ratio of V/v, we have it being the same as N/n. Since it is a voltage, and not the rate of change of voltage that created the magnetic field, we do not need to vary the voltage to produce a changing flux, so even if the voltage was constant, a current would be induced.

So unless I am missing something, a.c is not required to generate magnetic fields. So why does a transformer use a.c? Thanks
 
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  • #2
The problem is that the current will continue to rise without bound. With an open circuit secondary you get I = (V/L)t in the primary. Real world voltage sources can't produce infinite current, and real wold transformers can't handle it either.
 
  • #3
sarahwill said:
However, Faraday's law states that a voltage produced a changing magnetic flux as well.
No, it does not. So all that follows is based on a flawed assumption.
 
  • #4
nasu said:
No, it does not. So all that follows is based on a flawed assumption.
That's the whole point of the question. The law equates an induced voltage to the rate of change of flux of a magnetic field. So if there is an induced voltage, even if the induced voltage is constant, there should be a rate of change of magnetic flux through the coil right? What differentiates a constant voltage that could be set-up in the coil and thus allow a steady current flow from an induced voltage?
 
  • #5
A variable flux may induce a constant emf (if the rate of variation is constant). A constant voltage applied to a circuit does not produce a variable field. With the exception of the short transitory regime during which the current reaches its constant value.

In order to use a DC source as input for a transformer you will have to turn it on and off by some device. Which is exactly what it is done in an old device called induction coil.
You can even do it by hand and get sparks between the secondary terminals.
 
  • #6
nasu said:
constant voltage applied to a circuit does not produce a variable field. With the exception of the short transitory regime during which the current reaches its constant value.

Why does it reach a constant value? See #2.
 
  • #7
That is for a coil without resistance. I was talking about a real transformer. The current is limited by the coil's resistance.
 

1. Why do transformers use AC currents in the primary coil?

Transformers use AC currents in the primary coil because AC currents can be easily converted between different voltage levels using electromagnetic induction. This allows for efficient transmission of electricity over long distances.

2. Can transformers use DC currents in the primary coil?

No, transformers cannot use DC currents in the primary coil. DC currents do not produce a changing magnetic field, which is necessary for electromagnetic induction to occur and for the transformer to function properly.

3. What are the advantages of using AC currents in transformers?

Using AC currents in transformers allows for efficient transmission of electricity over long distances, as well as easy conversion between different voltage levels. AC currents also have the ability to be stepped up or down, making them suitable for various applications.

4. How do transformers convert AC currents between voltage levels?

Transformers convert AC currents between voltage levels through electromagnetic induction. The changing magnetic field produced by the primary coil induces a current in the secondary coil, which is then stepped up or down depending on the number of turns in each coil.

5. Are there any limitations to using AC currents in transformers?

One limitation of using AC currents in transformers is that they can only be used to convert between voltage levels that are within the same frequency range. Additionally, AC currents can cause power losses due to the resistance of the transformer's coils.

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