Why does a thyristor keep conducting after removing the gate current?

In summary: He is curious about why a transistor will turn off when you remove the gate voltage. He also mentions that he understands the concept of "SCR Latchup" but has trouble understanding it when it is presented as a single thyristor rather than two transistors. In summary, Dave is seeking a better understanding of the fundamentals of thyristors and their behavior when removing gate voltage.
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i have seen several videos of thyristors but they never really explain the fundamentals
they just say that cause there is a current flowing in there it keeps being on
but why does a transistor then turn off when you remove gate voltage
 
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brent1369 said:
i have seen several videos of thyristors but they never really explain the fundamentals
they just say that cause there is a current flowing in there it keeps being on
but why does a transistor then turn off when you remove gate voltage
Have you learned about "SCR Latchup" yet? Are you familiar with this view of the thyristor equivalent circuit? :smile:

https://www.electronics-notes.com/images/thyristor-scr-equivalent-circuit-01.svg

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latch-up
 

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I understand it when you divide it in 2 transistors but not when its 1 whole thyristor
 
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Cause you can't remove contact with highest P and highest N of th 2
and also lowest N and lowest P of th 1
 
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berkeman said:
Sorry, I can't parse that. A thyristor is just a PNPN structure, which is basically the same as the two transistors connected in the stacked format that I showed previously.

https://www.theengineeringprojects.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/what-is-thyristor.jpg

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Thanks for the heads up :smile:

Gosh, in the 50 odd years of doing electronics, the thyristor is probably one of my least understood
component. Not having had any real need to use them, has lead to some ignorance of them.Dave
 
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1. Why does a thyristor keep conducting after removing the gate current?

The thyristor is a type of semiconductor device that acts as a switch, allowing current to flow in only one direction. Once the gate current is applied, the thyristor turns on and allows current to flow. However, even after the gate current is removed, the thyristor will continue to conduct because of its internal structure.

2. What is the internal structure of a thyristor that allows it to keep conducting after removing the gate current?

A thyristor consists of four layers of alternating P-type and N-type semiconductor materials. The middle two layers form a P-N-P-N structure, with a gate terminal connected to the middle layer. This structure allows the thyristor to act as a latching switch, turning on with a small amount of gate current and staying on even after the gate current is removed.

3. How does the thyristor remain in the conducting state even without the gate current?

Once the thyristor is turned on, the current flowing through the device creates a positive feedback loop, known as regenerative feedback. This feedback keeps the thyristor in the conducting state, even without the gate current. The only way to turn off the thyristor is to interrupt the current flow by reducing the voltage below a certain threshold or by applying a reverse voltage.

4. Can a thyristor be turned off once it is conducting without the gate current?

Yes, a thyristor can be turned off by interrupting the current flow. This can be done by reducing the voltage below a certain threshold or by applying a reverse voltage. Another way to turn off a thyristor is by using a technique called forced commutation, which involves applying a reverse current to the device to turn it off.

5. What are some common applications of thyristors that rely on their ability to keep conducting after removing the gate current?

Thyristors are commonly used in power control circuits, such as in dimmer switches, motor speed control, and power supplies. They are also used in electronic switches, voltage regulators, and inverter circuits. Additionally, thyristors are used in high-voltage power transmission systems and as protection devices in electronic circuits.

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