Why Does This Limit Calculation Fail?

In summary: Also, your last statement is incorrect, \displaystyle\lim_{x\to-1}\left(x^2-2x+1\right)=0, not 3. And even more, \displaystyle\lim_{x\to-1}\left(x^2-2x+1\right)\neq\left(x^2-2x+1\right)|_{x=-1}=0, as the first is a limit and the second is a value. You are given that the limit is equal to a value, but you are calculating the wrong value.[EDIT] Just to clarify, I got ninja'd by both of you. The above is not directed at anyone,
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Homework Statement


Hello! I'm having difficulty to find this limit: [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow -1}(\sqrt[3]{\frac{x^3+1}{x+1}})[/tex]

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


This is what I'm trying to do to solve this limit: Let [tex]\frac{x^3+1}{x+1}=u[/tex] then
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow -1}(\sqrt[3]{u}) = \lim_{x\rightarrow -1}(\sqrt[3]{-1})[/tex]
I know something is wrong I'm just not sure about what is actually wrong. I'm thinking that [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow -1}(\sqrt[3]{u})[/tex] Is wrong because that -1!

Thanks!
 
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All you have done is "hide" the problem in that "u".

I would think that your first step would be to write
[tex]\frac{x^3+ 1}{x+ 1}= \frac{(x+1)(x^2- x+ 1)}{x+1}= x^2- x+ 1[/tex]
 
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DDarthVader said:

Homework Statement


Hello! I'm having difficulty to find this limit: [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow -1}(\sqrt[3]{\frac{x^3+1}{x+1}})[/tex]

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


This is what I'm trying to do to solve this limit: Let [tex]\frac{x^3+1}{x+1}=u[/tex] then
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow -1}(\sqrt[3]{u}) = \lim_{x\rightarrow -1}(\sqrt[3]{-1})[/tex]
How did you come up with the above result?
I know something is wrong I'm just not sure about what is actually wrong. I'm thinking that [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow -1}(\sqrt[3]{u})[/tex] Is wrong because that -1!

Thanks!
Factor x3 + 1 .
 
  • #4
Now I can see it!
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow -1}f(x)=3[/tex] then [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 3}\sqrt[3]{u} =\sqrt[3]{3}[/tex] and that means [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow -1}(\sqrt[3]{\frac{x^3+1}{x+1}})=\sqrt[3]{3}[/tex]
Right?
 
  • #5
It's asking what the limit is when x approaches -1 not everything inside the radical. Simplify and cancel first then take the limit. Try factoring the denominator.

edit: ^ you are making this way harder than it really is. Forget the limit, use algebra to simplify the expression then plug in -1 like you would in an function and see what you get.

2nd edit: never mind, you got it
 
  • #6
HallsofIvy said:
All you have done is "hide" the problem in that "u".

I would think that your first step would be to write
[tex]\frac{x^3+ 1}{x+ 1}= \frac{(x+1)(x^2- x+ 1)}{x+1}= x^2- 2x+ 1[/tex]
The last expression should be x2 - x + 1.
 
  • #7
Thanks! I'm too use to thinking of perfect squares!
 
  • #8
So you have the fraction [tex]\frac{x^3+1}{x+1}[/tex] and if you plug x=-1 into this, you get the indeterminate form 0/0. Remember that if you plug a value of x=a into a polynomial and it equates to zero, then it means that you have a root at x=a, and thus you can factor out (x-a) from the polynomial.

This was the first step you needed to realize. Since plugging x=-1 into the numerator and denominator equates both of them to zero, then (x-(-1))=(x+1) is a factor of both the numerator and denominator (but in the denominator it's obvious) so you would then need to figure out how to factor x+1 out of the numerator.
 
  • #9
I'd like to say something real quickly. [itex]\displaystyle\lim_{x\to-1}\left(\sqrt[3]{u}\right)\neq\lim_{u\to-1}\left(\sqrt[3]{u}\right)[/itex]. By the same arguments, you could show that [itex]\displaystyle\lim_{x\to 0}\left(1\right)[/itex], and, by letting [itex]u=1[/itex], [itex]\displaystyle\lim_{x\to0}\left(u\right)=0[/itex], which is obviously not true.
 

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