Why was the early universe opaque?

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of recombination in the universe, which led to the formation of Hydrogen atoms and the ability for photons to pass through particles. The explanation involves Thomson scattering and the concept of quantum mechanics, which explains why photons could not be scattered by bound electrons in atoms. The conversation concludes with an analogy comparing photons to a steak and electrons to a dog.
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I just learned from an Astronomy course that when the sub atomic particles were not bound together, they were moving around freely, but after the universe expanded and cooled, they began to combine to form Hydrogen atoms. Now, before this combination period, the photons couldn't pass through those particles, but after they did, they could. What I don't understand is why? I've read the introductory part here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recombination_(cosmology), but I couldn't understand much. Any help?
 
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Did you follow the link in the wiki article to the description of Thomson scattering ? - that's the physical process responsible. You need free electrons in abundance.
 
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Bandersnatch said:
Did you follow the link in the wiki article to the description of Thomson scattering ? - that's the physical process responsible. You need free electrons in abundance.
I did and that's my question. How could the particles scatter the EM waves earlier, but not after they combined to form Hydrogen atoms?
 
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Because you need a free charged particle for a photon to scatter off and atoms are electrically neutral.
 
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Bandersnatch said:
Because you need a free charged particle for a photon to scatter off and atoms are electrically neutral.
Ok, that makes sense, but I can even picture a photon coming in contact with just the electron of the atom or just the proton. Then wouldn't it be possible for that photon to be scattered again? Because when the photon will strike either the electron or the proton, it wouldn't really strike the neutral atom, it'll strike only either of those two particles.
 
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No one before 100 years ago could have answered your question either-- it is called quantum mechanics. It means that when electrons are bound in an atom, they are only allowed to have discrete (special) energies, so they cannot absorb most of the photons present because those photons don't have the right energy. Since most of the atoms are in the "ground state", it means the electrons can only interact with special ultraviolet energies, yet most of the CMB was in the visible or redder, so there is very little interaction between them. For a classical analog, you can imagine that each bound electron is attached, in effect, to a tight spring, so it is very difficult to make them oscillate slowly, you can only make them oscillate rapidly, near the "resonant frequency" of the spring.
 
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Ken G said:
It means that when electrons are bound in an atom, they are only allowed to have discrete (special) energies, so they cannot absorb most of the photons present because those photons don't have the right energy. Since most of the atoms are in the "ground state", it means the electrons can only interact with special ultraviolet energies, yet most of the CMB was in the visible or redder, so there is very little interaction between them.
That's perfect. Thank you so much! :)
 
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A photon is like a steak and an electron is like a dog. While the electrons moved freely through the universe because it was too hot for atoms to form, they constantly interacted with the photons, making it opaque. When the temperature hit a specific point, the protons in the universe almost all at once put their electrons on leashes and photons could be free. That's the Cosmic Microwave Background.
 

1. Why was the early universe opaque?

The early universe was opaque because it was filled with a dense, hot plasma of particles, such as protons and electrons, that were constantly colliding with each other. This caused light to scatter and be absorbed, making the universe appear opaque.

2. How did the early universe become transparent?

The early universe became transparent when it expanded and cooled enough for the particles to combine and form neutral atoms. This process is known as recombination and occurred around 380,000 years after the Big Bang.

3. Why is the opacity of the early universe important?

The opacity of the early universe is important because it provides evidence for the Big Bang theory and helps scientists understand the formation and evolution of the universe. It also allows us to observe the cosmic microwave background radiation, which is the leftover heat from the Big Bang.

4. How do we know that the early universe was opaque?

We know that the early universe was opaque because of the cosmic microwave background radiation. This radiation is the remnant of the hot, dense plasma that filled the early universe and is still detectable today. Additionally, observations of distant galaxies and the distribution of elements in the universe also support the idea of an opaque early universe.

5. Will the universe become opaque again?

No, the universe will not become opaque again. Recombination was a one-time event and the expansion of the universe continues to make it more transparent. However, in the distant future, the universe may reach a state of maximum entropy where all the matter and energy is evenly distributed, making it appear opaque again, but this is not expected to happen for billions of years.

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