Write probability in terms of shape parameters of beta distribution

In summary, the conversation discusses the probability of a player winning a game based on the probability of winning each point and reaching a certain score. It is suggested to draw the probability from a beta distribution and adjust the formula accordingly. However, it is noted that the formula may not be exactly a beta-binomial distribution.
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Initially we have a probability of someone winning a game with certain scoring rules. The probability is of winning depends on the probability of winning a point, p, (which is assumed to be constant). The goal is to draw p from a beta distribution and change the formula accordingly
Assume that players A and B play a match where the probability that A will win each point is p, for B its 1-p and a player wins when he reach 11 points by a margin of >= 2The outcome of the match is specified by $$P(y|p, A_{wins})$$
If we know that A wins, his score is specified by B's score; he has necessarily scored max(11, y + 2) points

In the case of y >= 10 we have

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|p) = \binom{10 + 10}{10}p^{10}(1-p)^{10}
\cdot[2p(1-p)]^{y-10}\cdot p^ 2$$

The elements represents respectively:
- probability of reaching (10, 10)
- probability of reaching y after (10, 10)
- probability of A winning two times in a row

I would like to change the constant p assumption and draw p from a beta distribution.
The first part can be rewritten as as [beta-binomial](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-binomial_distribution) function:

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|\alpha, \beta) =\binom{10+10}{10}\frac{B(10+\alpha, 10+\beta)}{B(\alpha, \beta)} \cdot \space _{...} \cdot \space _{...}$$

The original formula can be simplified to

$$P(A_{wins} \cap y|p) = \binom{10 + 10}{10}p^{12}(1-p)^{10}
\cdot[2p(1-p)]^{y-10}$$

Is it correct to combine the first and third element as follows:

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|\alpha, \beta) =\binom{10+10}{10}\frac{B(12+\alpha, 10+\beta)}{B(\alpha, \beta)} \cdot \space _{...} $$
 
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hjam24 said:
TL;DR Summary: Initially we have a probability of someone winning a game with certain scoring rules. The probability is of winning depends on the probability of winning a point, p, (which is assumed to be constant). The goal is to draw p from a beta distribution and change the formula accordingly

Assume that players A and B play a match where the probability that A will win each point is p, for B its 1-p and a player wins when he reach 11 points by a margin of >= 2The outcome of the match is specified by $$P(y|p, A_{wins})$$
If we know that A wins, his score is specified by B's score; he has necessarily scored max(11, y + 2) points

In the case of y >= 10 we have

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|p) = \binom{10 + 10}{10}p^{10}(1-p)^{10}
\cdot[2p(1-p)]^{y-10}\cdot p^ 2$$

The elements represents respectively:
- probability of reaching (10, 10)
- probability of reaching y after (10, 10)
- probability of A winning two times in a row

I would like to change the constant p assumption and draw p from a beta distribution.
The first part can be rewritten as as [beta-binomial](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-binomial_distribution) function:

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|\alpha, \beta) =\binom{10+10}{10}\frac{B(10+\alpha, 10+\beta)}{B(\alpha, \beta)} \cdot \space _{...} \cdot \space _{...}$$

The original formula can be simplified to

$$P(A_{wins} \cap y|p) = \binom{10 + 10}{10}p^{12}(1-p)^{10}
\cdot[2p(1-p)]^{y-10}$$

Is it correct to combine the first and third element as follows:

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|\alpha, \beta) =\binom{10+10}{10}\frac{B(12+\alpha, 10+\beta)}{B(\alpha, \beta)} \cdot \space _{...} $$
It's not quite a beta-binomial distribution. However you can do a similar integral $$\int_0^1 P(A_{wins}\cap y|\alpha,\beta)Beta(p|\alpha,\beta)$$. Note also that the expression for P further simplifies before you do the integral.
 

1. What is the beta distribution?

The beta distribution is a continuous probability distribution that is commonly used to model random variables that have values between 0 and 1. It is characterized by two shape parameters, alpha and beta, which determine the shape of the distribution.

2. How is the beta distribution related to shape parameters?

The shape parameters of the beta distribution, alpha and beta, determine the shape of the distribution by controlling the skewness and kurtosis. They also determine the range of values that the distribution can take, with alpha and beta both being positive, non-zero values.

3. How do you write probability in terms of shape parameters of beta distribution?

The probability density function (PDF) of the beta distribution is written as f(x; alpha, beta) = (1/B(alpha, beta)) * x^(alpha-1) * (1-x)^(beta-1), where B(alpha, beta) is the beta function. This formula shows how the shape parameters, alpha and beta, are used to calculate the probability of a specific value, x, occurring in the distribution.

4. What is the relationship between the shape parameters and the mean and variance of the beta distribution?

The mean of the beta distribution is given by alpha / (alpha + beta), and the variance is given by (alpha * beta) / ((alpha + beta)^2 * (alpha + beta + 1)). This shows that the shape parameters have a direct impact on the central tendency and spread of the distribution. As the values of alpha and beta change, the mean and variance of the distribution also change.

5. How are the shape parameters of the beta distribution estimated?

The shape parameters of the beta distribution can be estimated using various methods, such as the method of moments, maximum likelihood estimation, or Bayesian estimation. These methods involve using sample data to estimate the values of alpha and beta that best fit the observed data and represent the underlying distribution.

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