Whatever happened to the Particle Theory of Light?

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The discussion centers on the nature of light, specifically the particle theory versus wave theory. Participants explore the implications of various phenomena such as rectilinear propagation, refraction, reflection, and diffraction in relation to these theories. The conversation includes references to literature and conceptual frameworks surrounding light's dual nature.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the wave theory of light is supported by phenomena like rectilinear propagation, refraction, reflection, and diffraction.
  • Others assert that the particle model of light is still relevant and that light exhibits wave/particle duality, with reflection and refraction being explained through particle interactions.
  • A participant recommends Richard P. Feynman's book "QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter," highlighting its analysis of light phenomena through a conceptual setup involving lasers and detectors.
  • Feynman's approach includes a discussion on how light particles may not be constrained to straight-line motion, suggesting that non-rectilinear paths cancel each other out, leaving straight paths as the primary contributors to light energy.
  • One participant notes that polarization is omitted in Feynman's presentation, indicating it complicates the discussion of light phenomena.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity and applicability of the particle theory versus wave theory of light. There is no consensus on which model is superior or more accurate, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific phenomena and theoretical frameworks without fully resolving the implications of wave/particle duality or the limitations of each model. The discussion reflects ongoing debates in the understanding of light.

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Hello, I am a student in high schoool, and everywhere i look i see the obvious implications that light travels as a wave. I mean

-Rectilinear propagation
-Refraction
-Reflection
-Diffraction

etc. all seem to point to wave theory, but what do the particle people say about these things..

just looking for a second opinion,

thanks
 
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Mark said:
Hello, I am a student in high schoool, and everywhere i look i see the obvious implications that light travels as a wave. I mean

-Rectilinear propagation
-Refraction
-Reflection
-Diffraction

etc. all seem to point to wave theory, but what do the particle people say about these things..

just looking for a second opinion,

thanks
Reflection and refraction are particle phenomena. The particle model is very much alive and well - in its domain of applicability: light is now well accepted to have a wave/particle duality.
 
You could do worse than read a book called "QED:The Strange Theory of Light and Matter" by Richard P. Feynman. He takes on versions of all these phenomena, analyzing with a conceptual setup consisting of a laser source, a block of glass and a photomultiplier as a counter. He considers reflection off the glass block in two stages: first, assuming for simplicity that the reflection all takes place off the surface of the glass; second, the reflection is layered throughout the glass. He constructs a diffraction grating by painting out certain positions along the surface of the glass. He handles refraction by considering the detector embedded in the glass (a bit of a far-fetch!). Rectilinear propagation is the most interesting thing of all. He denies that light particles are constrained to move along straight lines, then he shows how neighboring non-rectilinear paths effectively cancel each other, making the straight paths the only real contribution of the light energy at the end.

The one light phenomenon he apologizes about not covering is "polarization". It is a complicating factor for the rest of his presentation, so he elected to omit it.

I would have groused some about calling it a "particle" theory, but Feynman says it is in his first chapter. "We know that light is made of particles because we can take a very sensitive instrument that makes clicks when light shines on it, and if the light gets dimmer, the clicks remain just as loud-there are just fewer of them."

It might take multiple readings to get through this book, but it is worth it. Check out the drawings and their captions for a quick take on what is going on.

The theory of light is done in the first two chapters of QED. The rest of the book talks about electron/light interactions and quark/gluon interactions, so it is not strictly only about QED (Quantum Electrodynamics).

Amazon link to this book --->
 
I found the following this AM

Feynman QED lectures on video --->
http://www.vega.org.uk/series/lectures/feynman/
 
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