Proving Polynomial Identities Using Induction

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The discussion revolves around proving a polynomial identity using mathematical induction. The original poster presents a statement regarding the representation of polynomial functions in terms of a factor involving a linear term and another polynomial.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the base case of the induction and the transition to higher degrees of polynomials. Questions arise regarding the clarity of the induction hypothesis and the validity of certain substitutions made during the proof process.

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Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's approach, suggesting clarifications and emphasizing the importance of the induction hypothesis. Others share their own attempts at extending the proof to higher degrees, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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There is a recognition of potential confusion regarding the assumptions made about polynomial degrees and the implications of the Remainder Theorem in the context of the problem. Participants also note the importance of clear communication in mathematical proofs.

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Homework Statement



Prove that for any polynomial function f, and any number a, there is a polynomial function g, and a number b, such that f(x) = (x-a)g(x) + b for all x.

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Base Case: Let f(x) be a polynomial of degree n = 1. Then:

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> f(x) &amp;= c_1x+c_0\\<br /> f(x) &amp;= c_1x - c_1a + c_1a + c_0\\<br /> f(x) &amp;= (x-a)c_1 + c_1a + c_0\\<br /> f(x) &amp;= (x-a)g(x) + b<br /> \end{align*}<br />

where g(x) = c1 and b = (c1a + c0).

Let P(n) be the statement that every polynomial function of degree n can be written as f(x) = (x-a)g(x) + b.

Take P(n+1) and assume P(n) is true:

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> f(x) &amp;= c_{n+1}x^{n+1} + c_{n}x^{n}+...+c_1x + c_0\\<br /> f(x) &amp;= c_{n+1}x^{n+1} + (x-a)q(x) + k_0\\<br /> f(x) &amp;= c_{n+1}x^{n+1} - c_{n+1}x^na + c_{n+1}x^na + (x-a)q(x) + k_0\\<br /> f(x) &amp;= (x-a)(c_{n+1}x^n) + c_{n+1}x^na + (x-a)q(x) + k_0\\<br /> f(x) &amp;= (x-a)(c_{n+1}x^n) + (x-a)r(x) + k_1 + (x-a)q(x) + k_0\\<br /> f(x) &amp;= (x-a)(c_{n+1}x^n + r(x) + q(x)) + k_1 + k_0\\<br /> f(x) &amp;= (x-a)g(x) + b<br /> \end{align*}<br />

where g(x) = cn+1xn + r(x) + q(x)
and b = k1 + k0.

I think it's right, but I'm always so unsure of myself when it comes to induction.
 
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That seems ok to me. It might help a bit if you explicitly say why you can make certain substitutions because of the induction hypothesis. But I think it's basically ok. And as a technical point you can't just prove P(n+1) from P(n). c_n might be 0. P(n) should really be "every polynomial function of degree k<=n can be written as f(x) = (x-a)g(x) + b". But that's really just a legal fine point.
 
thanks very much.
 
Hi,
could someone explain how we go from 1. to 2. in the expressions below?
I fail to see how c_{n+1}x^na=(x-a)r(x)+k_1
Thanks.

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> 1.f(x) &amp;= (x-a)(c_{n+1}x^n) + c_{n+1}x^na + (x-a)q(x) + k_0\\<br /> 2.f(x) &amp;= (x-a)(c_{n+1}x^n) + (x-a)r(x) + k_1 + (x-a)q(x) + k_0\\<br /> \end{align*}<br />
 
It's the induction hypothesis. You assume every polynomial of degree <=n can be written as (x-a)*r(x)+k. Think about it. The OP didn't state this as clearly as should have been done. See if you can do better. Look at the n=1 case. If you understand that, you understand everything. Also think about posting your own threads.
 
Dick said:
It's the induction hypothesis. You assume every polynomial of degree <=n can be written as (x-a)*r(x)+k. Think about it.
Since we show that f(x) can be written as (x-a)g(x)+b for the n=1 case, we can assume that it holds for k \leq n, just as you wrote in an earlier post. Then we check to see if the statement holds for the n+1 case. I understand that (to the extent I can understand anything).

Dick said:
Look at the n=1 case. If you understand that, you understand everything.
f(x)=c_1x+c_0

if (x-a) is a factor of f(x) then f(a)=0.

f(\frac{-c_0}{c_1})=c_1(-\frac{c_o}{c_1})+c_0 =0

The Remainder Theorem gives that:
f(a)=b, so

f(x)=(x-(-\frac{c_o}{c_1}))c_1+c_1(-\frac{c_o}{c_1})+c_0

I guess this is all good and well if (x-a) is a factor of f(x). But if it isn't then,
f(x)=(x-a)c_1 + c_1(a)+c_0

I've successfully managed to confuse myself.

As for making my own threads, I always read how one should do a proper search before posting. I thought it would be better not to make my own thread about something that has been covered in the past. Will do so in the future though, thanks.
 
n=1. f(x)=c1*x+c0=c1*x-c1*a+c1*a+c0=c1*(x-a)+(c1*a+c0). c1*a+c0 is a number. c1 is a 'polynomial' of degree less than 1. Now let's do n=2. f(x)=c2*x^2+c1*x+c0=c2*x^2-c2*x*a+c2*x*a+c1*x+c0=c2*x*(x-a)+(c2*x*a+c1*x+c0). Since (c2*x*a+c1*x+c0) is a polynomial of degree one, by the induction hypothesis (and as we showed above) it can be written as p(x)(x-a)+b where p(x) has degree <1 (e.g. it's really just a constant). So f(x)=c2*x*(x-a)+p(x)(x-a)+b=(c2*x+p(x))*(x-a)+b. So f(x)=q(x)*(x-a)+b where q(x)=c2*x+p(x) has degree 1. Try doing n=3 explicitly.

Yep, researching is a great idea. In preparation for solving the problem or posting your own thread. I don't necessarily even pay much attention to add ons to ancient posts unless there are my own. If I see some other post with 5+ replies to it, I'll figure the problem is already being dealt with and move on. You'll get more replies faster if it's a new thread.
 
Hi,

Here's my try at the n=3 case:

<br /> \begin{tabular}{ r c l }<br /> \(f(x)\) &amp; \(=\) &amp; c_3x^3+c_2x^2+c_1x+c_0\) \\<br /> &amp; \(=\) &amp; c_3x^3-c_3x^2a+c_3x^2a+c_2x^2+c_1x+c_0\) \\<br /> &amp; \(=\) &amp; (x-a)c_3x^2+c_3x^2a+c_2x^2+c_1x+c_0\)<br /> \end{tabular}<br />

c_3x^2a+c_2x^2+c_1x+c_0 is a polynomial of degree two, and can, by the induction hypothesis be written as (x-a)p(x)+b.

<br /> \begin{tabular}{ r c l }<br /> \(f(x)\) &amp; \(=\) &amp; (x-a)c_3x^2+(x-a)p(x)+b\) \\<br /> &amp; \(=\) &amp; (x-a)\left(c_3x^2+p(x)\right)+b\) \\<br /> \end{tabular}<br />

q(x)=c_3x^2+p(x) has degree 2, and b has degree 1.

Thank you for being patient!
 
That's nice. It was worth waiting for.
 
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You are too kind, thanks. I feel comfortable with this now.
 

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