Photons hitting the metal of the bike

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a type of paint that changes color with heat and light, specifically its application on vehicles like bikes. Participants explore the mechanisms behind this phenomenon, including the role of photons and electrons, as well as the materials involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the color-changing effect is not new, although its application to vehicles is recent.
  • One participant shares a personal anecdote about childhood toys with similar color-changing properties, expressing concern about potential hazards.
  • Another participant speculates that the effect may involve photons oscillating electrons in the metal, leading to energy changes, but admits uncertainty about the specifics.
  • A later reply suggests that the paint contains fluorescent dyes that interact with UV light, causing electrons to transition between energy states and emit light.
  • Another participant introduces the idea that heat (phonons) can also activate the color change, in addition to light (photons), referencing concepts like fluorescence and thermoluminescence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and speculation about the mechanisms involved, with no consensus on the exact workings of the paint or its implications.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the scientific principles involved, particularly regarding the interaction between photons, electrons, and temperature changes. There are also concerns about the safety of the materials used in the paint.

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Check this out. I’ve never seen anything like it. Says on their webpage that it actually changes with heat. I’m hoping someone in here has heard more or tried it. My car is next…… I got to have this…….

http://www.alsacorp.com//xposure_bike.htm
 
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You know this effect is not new - the application onto a vehicle is, though! :D
 
Bah. I had toy cars with that type of paint when I was a kid. I used to have them in my mouth and that made them change colour, don't know how smart that was concidering the possible hazards of the involved chemicals...
I for one wouldn't like to have marks after my ass on my motorcycle an hour or two after i got off... That doesn't seem too cool.

Anyway, does anyone here know how it works?
 
Im guessing it would work with the photons hitting the metal of the bike. Then these photons would oscilate the electrons in the metal and change its energy, ... Thats where I get stuck, probably wrong, I am wondering too how it works?
 
Nenad said:
Im guessing it would work with the photons hitting the metal of the bike. Then these photons would oscilate the electrons in the metal and change its energy, ... Thats where I get stuck, probably wrong, I am wondering too how it works?

Temperature change... like the tape-style thermometers

?
 
It's pretty simple. They mix in fluorescent dyes into the regular paint.

Electrons in certain rare Earth doped compounds get excited by the UV in sunlight into certain dopant states. They then fall back (almost immediately, unlike in glo-sticks, which have long afterglow) into the original state through a series of downward transitions. And of course, when an electron drops to a lower energy state, it emits light.

That, I believe, is what's happening.
 
The same activation can also be provided by phonons (heat) instead of photons (light).

Look up fluorescence, photoluminescence and thermoluminescence.
 

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