Boas Mathematical physics book, definition of center of mass

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The discussion revolves around the definition of the center of mass as presented in Boas' Mathematical Physics book, specifically addressing the mathematical formulation and its application to both continuous and discrete bodies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definition of center of mass given in Boas' book, suggesting that the integral should be divided by the total mass M.
  • Another participant agrees that the second equality in the definition is correct and explains that x_{CM} can be factored out of the integral, leading to the conclusion that x_{CM} = integral(stuff)/M.
  • A later reply acknowledges a misunderstanding of the book's statement, admitting that the first equality was incorrect and confirming the second equality as correct.
  • One participant suggests that for discrete objects, the center of mass is simply a weighted mean of the positions, indicating that this concept should be included in the book.
  • Another participant proposes that substituting density functions for mass points can bridge the gap between continuous and discrete cases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the center of mass definition, with some agreeing on the correction of the first equality while others maintain uncertainty about the book's treatment of discrete bodies.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the treatment of the center of mass for non-continuous bodies in the book, and participants have not reached a consensus on this aspect.

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In Boas' book I can read that the definition of center of mass of a body has coordinates x_{CM}= \int x_{CM}dM= \int x dM.
Shouldn't it be this same integral but divided by M?!
Also, I didn't find the definition of center of mass for particles or any non continuous bodies.
I'd be grateful if someone could point me what I'm missing.

Edit: I forgot to say it's on page 210 in the 2nd edition.
 
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fluidistic said:
x_{CM}= \int x_{CM}dM

How could this be true? The second equality is correct. Since x_CM is a constant, you can pull it out of your integral. There's your missing M. You'll thus have x_CM = integral(stuff)/M

For discrete objects, it is just a weighted mean of the positions. Should be in there somewhere!
 
WiFO215 said:
How could this be true? The second equality is correct. Since x_CM is a constant, you can pull it out of your integral. There's your missing M. You'll thus have x_CM = integral(stuff)/M

For discrete objects, it is just a weighted mean of the positions. Should be in there somewhere!
My bad, I misunderstood the book. The first equality is wrong and the second is right as you said. Now I get it. Thanks a lot.
Yeah I know how to calculate the center of mass of discrete objects. I just wanted to be sure and referred to the book but couldn't find it (still didn't find it).
 
If that is so, then simply substitute in the density of the object delta functions for those mass points and the continuous reduces to the discrete ;)
 

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