Translational Motion Equation Derivation

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The original poster is studying translational motion for the MCAT and seeks to understand the derivation of the equation vx² = vo² + 2axΔx. They express a desire to learn the underlying principles rather than memorize formulas, questioning whether the derivation involves calculus or if it is a straightforward formula without derivation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss starting points for the derivation, including the use of kinematic equations and substitutions related to acceleration and velocity. Some suggest using calculus-based approaches, while others reference conservation of energy as a method to derive the equation.

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There is an active exchange of ideas, with some participants providing guidance on how to approach the derivation. Multiple interpretations of the derivation process are being explored, and while some participants express satisfaction with the explanations given, there is no explicit consensus on a single method.

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The original poster is preparing for a standardized test and emphasizes the importance of understanding the derivation rather than simply memorizing the formula. This context shapes the nature of the discussion and the types of approaches being considered.

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Homework Statement



I'm studying for my MCAT and currently on translational motion. Rather than memorize the formulas, which would be useless for this type of test, I'm trying to learn and understand where the formulas come from, which requires knowing how to derive them. I need help with deriving the following translational motion equation:

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vx2 = vo2 + 2axΔx

The Attempt at a Solution



This equation is used for solving Physics problems in which time is not relevant. I tried substituting equivalent expressions for time (e.g. Δv/a and Δx/v) into other translational motion equations, but it was no use. =( I'm wondering if it's a Calculus based derivation? Or perhaps I am over thinking this and it's a common sense formula that has no derivation?

Please help!
 
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It's actually a bit of both things you did. Start with this equation

x(t)=x_0+v_0 t+\frac{1}{2}at^2

Then replace t=\frac{\Delta v}{a}, (wich is obvious from the definition of acceleration) so you get

\Delta x = x(t)-x_0=\frac{v_0\Delta v}{a}+\frac{\Delta v^2}{2a}/<br /> <br /> Now, just remember that \Delta v=v_f-v_0 and multiply by 2a:<br /> <br /> 2a\Delta x=2v_0v_f-2v_0^2+v_f^2-2v_0v_f+v_0^2<br /> <br /> \Rightarrow v_f^2=v_0^2+2a\Delta x<br /> <br /> and ther eyou have it :D<br /> <br /> Hope it helps.
 
YES! Thanks so much! That's exactly what I did before, but I didn't FOIL the Δv2, I just had vf2-vo2.
 
It is wise to understand where the kinematic equations for constant acceleration come from. Once you understand them, it is essential to memorize them. It is not a useless exercise to do so.
 
s=\int_{Vi}^{Vf} \! v \, \mathrm{d} t
dv/a=dt
a is constant.

as=\int_{Vi}^{Vf} \! v \, \mathrm{d} v
2as=Vf2-Vi2
 
All that's needed here is conservation of energy. Starting with a constant force (and hence, acceleration), conservation of energy tells us that initial kinetic energy + work done on the particle = final kinetic energy, or

E_0 + W = E_f \implies \frac{1}{2} m v_0^2 + m a \Delta x= \frac{1}{2} m v_f^2

Cancelling the mass and moving terms around easily gets you the correct result.

Most of basic kinematics comes from conservation of momentum (F = dp/dt) or conservation of energy, really, and what's taught just corresponds to simple cases of what form the force might take. For instance:

1) No force (F=0): particles move in straight lines
2) Constant force: particles move along parabolas
3) Force proportional to position: springs
4) Central forces: Newtonian gravity, circular motion

In the end, whatever the kind of force being studied or what mathematical form it takes, someone somewhere solved the differential equation F = dp/dt for each general kind of force of interest. When combined with the principle of conservation of energy, a scientist has a very powerful set of ideas at their disposal to analyze physical problems. I don't think everyone needs to be able to derive the equations of motion for any arbitrary force, but knowing how to go from these principles to the simple case solutions is useful, and if you face a system with a force like nothing you've seen before, sometimes the only thing to do is to fall back on these basic laws
 

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