Using Lagrangian to derive the equation of motion

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The discussion revolves around deriving the equation of motion for a mass-spring-pulley system using Lagrangian mechanics. The system involves a mass connected to a spring, with a string wrapped around a pulley that has a specified moment of inertia.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the Lagrangian and the relationship between the generalized coordinates x and θ. Questions are raised regarding the constraints that relate these coordinates and the proper expression for the Lagrangian.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the formulation of the Lagrangian and the need to express the relationship between the coordinates. There is an ongoing exploration of the equations and constraints necessary for deriving the equations of motion.

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Participants note the urgency of the homework deadline and the potential confusion regarding the presentation of the problem, including issues with visual aids.

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Homework Statement


derive the equation of motion of a mass-spring-pulley system using lagrange's equations. A mass m is connected to a spring of stiffness k, through a string wrapped around a rigid pulley of radius R and mass moment of inertia, I.

Homework Equations


kinetic energey
T = 1/2 (m)(x_dot) + 1/2 (I)(theta_dot)
potential energy
V = 1/2 k(R)(x)

The Attempt at a Solution


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sorry for the sideways picture... don't know why its doing that. but please help homework is due tomorrow morning! thanks!
 
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What is your Lagrangian? Without writing it down, you will not be able to derive the equations of motion.
It seems your generalized coordinates are x and θ. Is there a constraint relating the two?
 
ts the second to last equation on the picture, with the partial derivatives to the respect of x. so ∂T/∂x⋅ - ∂T/∂x + ∂V/∂x = Q

and i believe there's a onstraint of x = rθ
 
That's not the Lagrangian. The Lagrangian is L = T - V. What you have is the equation for generalized coordinate x. You need to write another such equation involving θ and apply the constraint relating x and θ to get a single equation of motion.
 

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