Can the GCD and Euclidean Algorithm Solve Real Life Problems?

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The discussion highlights the real-life applications of the greatest common divisor (GCD) and the Euclidean algorithm, emphasizing their utility in problem-solving scenarios, such as simplifying ratios and empirical formulas in chemistry. Examples include determining the optimal purchase quantities of items sold in different pack sizes, like hotdogs and buns, to achieve equal amounts. While some participants struggle to identify specific applications, they acknowledge the GCD's role in various mathematical contexts, including encryption and finite fields. The conversation also touches on the relevance of these concepts in educational materials, questioning their presence in modern math textbooks. Overall, the GCD and Euclidean algorithm serve as practical tools in both theoretical and everyday problem-solving situations.
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Are there any real life applications of the greatest common divisor of two or more integers?
 
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Yes. i.e. whenever you have something depending on a ratio ...

It's not normally expressed in that way though.
Mostly - the lesson is important for the practise it gives in a kind of problem solving.
 
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There are a whole bunch. I use the idea regularly so it is difficult to point to a specific thing...
 
rexregisanimi said:
There are a whole bunch. I use the idea regularly so it is difficult to point to a specific thing...
Aww go on - show us one... what's the one you use regularly that you last used?
 
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matqkks said:
Are there any real life applications of the greatest common divisor of two or more integers?
I can't think of any real world applications. The closest I can think of is the Euclid algorithm for finding the GCD which can be extended and used to find the inverse of a number in finite field, but it's seldom used because there are other and better methods. For example, if the field isn't very large, a lookup table can be used. In the case of hardware implementations of inversion based on "binary" finite fields (which is part of AES encryption), there are complex methods (sub-field mapping) that involve fewer gates than a lookup table. Wiki article for extended Euclid algorithm:

wiki_inverse_in_finite_field.htm
 
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GCD is used any time you want to simplify integers, but have the same ratios as the others have said. Another way to say it is the numbers scale equally. An example is in solving empirical formulas, where you reduce all integers in a chemical formula. Such as hexane C6H8 -> C3H4 GCD(6,8) is 2 so divide each by 2 to get the answer. Though it isn't of much use, but it has a name.
 
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The store sells 8-packs of hotdogs and 12-packs of buns. If you want the same (nonzero) number of each, what's the cheapest way to do it?
 
@economicsnerd: good example, well done!
Most people wouldn't do that by listing the divisors, but I suppose there are examples less amenable to a bit of trial and error.
Do HS math textbooks no longer have examples like that these days?
 
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economicsnerd said:
The store sells 8-packs of hotdogs and 12-packs of buns. If you want the same (nonzero) number of each, what's the cheapest way to do it?
Wouldn't this be the "lowest common multiple" as opposed to the "greatest common divisor"?
 
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rcgldr said:
Wouldn't this be the "lowest common multiple" as opposed to the "greatest common divisor"?

Directly, I guess it's not really either.
Computing either the GCD or the LCM would get you close to knowing how many bags of each to buy. You either compute {h/GCD(h,b), b/GCD(h,b)} or {LCM(h,b)/h, LCM(h,b)/b}.
 
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If you can think of a real life application of linear Diophantine equations, then the GCD and the Euclidean algorithm have applications to solving those.
 
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