Solving Diffraction Patterns: Investigating Central Spot Intensity/Radius

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The discussion revolves around the diffraction pattern produced by blocking plane monochromatic light with a circular disc and the characteristics of the central bright spot that appears in the shadow. Participants are exploring how the intensity and radius of this spot change as a function of the distance from the disc to the observation screen.

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Main Points Raised

  • Dan seeks to understand how the intensity and radius of the central bright spot vary with distance x from the disc and at what point the spot becomes too bright or large.
  • One participant suggests looking into Fraunhofer diffraction and mentions that the central spot is known as the Airy disk, with intensity described by a Bessel function.
  • Dan expresses concern that standard analyses using Bessel functions may not apply as x approaches zero, indicating potential limitations in classic undergraduate approaches to the problem.
  • Another participant acknowledges the confusion between Fresnel and Fraunhofer diffraction, noting that the Airy disk relates to far-field limits while the Poisson spot is a consequence of Fresnel diffraction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the approach to take for analyzing the problem, with differing views on the applicability of existing mathematical frameworks and the nature of the diffraction effects involved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the standard analyses discussed, particularly regarding the validity of Bessel functions as x approaches zero, and the distinction between Fresnel and Fraunhofer diffraction is not fully resolved.

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Hi

hoping someone can help me with this problem. If I block plane monochromatic light (wavelength lambda) with a circular disc of radius r, and then look at the diffraction pattern on a screen placed a distance x behind the disc, I get a bright spot in the centre of the shadow. All well and good. What I want to know is how do the intensity and radius of that central spot vary as a function of x. Specifically I want to know how small I need to make x in order to effectively eliminate the bright spot. Clearly at x=0 there is no bright spot - as x increases I don't know whether the spot appears with increasing radius or increasing intensity (presumably both) but I need to be able to put some numbers into find at what point the spot becomes intolerably bright/large. For anyone interested the reasoning behind my problem is a botched photolith job that I'm trying to do an autopsy on and avoid repeating the same mistakes!

Thanks very much for any help anyone can give,

Dan
 
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Look up a mathematical discussion of Fraunhofer diffraction in a physical optics text (or just poke around the web). That spot is also called the Airy disk. The intensity is described by a Bessel function. Here's a site that describes it a little: http://dustbunny.physics.indiana.edu/~dzierba/P360n/KPAD/Exps/Poisson/poisson.html
 
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Hey Doc

cheers for the reply. Yeah I've been looking through the textbooks (Fresnel diffraction rather than Fraunhoffer I think) but it's not as simple as I'd hoped. The Bessel functions from the standard analysis will never give you the dot disappearing, as the analysis is invalid for x approaching zero (which it's going to have to do.) The classic undergrad approach fails at the first hurdle. I've got a feeling it's going to involve a lot of unpleasant maths starting right from first principles of diffraction (doubtless quickly resulting in an analytically impossible integral) - just wondered/hoped whether anyone out there had already ploughed through this or had a better way in mind!
 
Dan Forth said:
Yeah I've been looking through the textbooks (Fresnel diffraction rather than Fraunhoffer I think) but it's not as simple as I'd hoped.
Oops, you're right. Obviously I haven't looked at this stuff in ages: I was thinking Airy disk (and far-field limits) while you were talking about the Poisson spot from a circular obstruction (a consequence of Fresnel diffraction).
 

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