Finding K in a two spring system.

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The discussion revolves around determining the effective spring constant (k) for a system of two springs attached to an object on a frictionless surface. The original poster describes a lab experiment where they measured the individual spring constants and seeks to understand how these relate to the combined spring constant when both springs act together.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster considers using the equation for force to relate the individual spring constants, questioning whether they can combine them directly. They also express uncertainty about the signs of the displacements for each spring. Other participants suggest that the spring constants should add together and inquire about the values obtained for each spring.

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Participants are exploring the relationship between the individual spring constants and the effective spring constant for the system. Some guidance has been offered regarding the addition of the spring constants, and the original poster reflects on their thought process, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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The original poster notes challenges in obtaining consistent spring constants due to the quality of the springs used in the experiment.

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I did a lab experiment this past week and not sure how to determine k for a two spring system. We had an object on a frictionless surface and attached one spring on each side. I was able able to determine the spring constant for both springs individually but not sure how to determine the k for both springs acting together.

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Was thinking force= kx so k for both springs could I do force= K1x-K2x. K1 is spring constant for spring on the left. X is positive since the spring is elongating. K2 is the spring attached on the left side of the glider. X is negative because the spring is compression. Am I on the right path?
 
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To be more clear. I have the value for k for each spring and both springs working together. I curious in finding how the two individual spring constants relate to the spring constant of the two spring system.
 
They should add. What values of k did you get for each situation?
 
Makes sense the K are added. Think I over thought it . I can imagine the two springs as one spring once they are connected to the glider. The x wouldn't be negative for K2 since it one spring. X would just be the distance the glider moves from equilibrium. force=(k1+k2)*x

for two springs system I got k= 7.9000
left spring k= 3.655
right spring k= 3.828

So if I add it together it is roughly close to where I should be. The springs were pretty crappy so it was tough to get a constant k with them the more you used them. Please let me know if this thought pattern is correct.
 
Yeah I mean if you pull the object one direction it is pushed by one spring in one direction and and pulled in that same direction by the other spring.
 
That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification
 

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