Calculating the electric field in an electron gun

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field in an electron gun setup, where a cathode and anode are at -1000V and 1000V, respectively, separated by a distance of 3mm. Participants are exploring how to derive the electric field and subsequently the acceleration of an electron within that field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between voltage and electric field, with one suggesting that the electric field can be assumed uniform. There are attempts to integrate to find the electric field, and questions arise regarding the implications of negative acceleration on the calculations of speed and time.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and confirming each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of the electric field and the interpretation of acceleration versus speed. Multiple interpretations of the approach to finding speed and time are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to calculate speed and time without initially knowing the velocity, as well as the implications of sign conventions in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



I have given a cathode and a anode being -1000V and 1000V each respectivily
I know the distance between the cathode and anode its 3mm
What I have to do now is calculate the electric field between the cathode and anode and use that to find the acceleration of an electron in that electric field.


Homework Equations



well the acceleration = F/me with F being qe*E
now qe=-1.60e-19;
and me=9.11e-31;

The Attempt at a Solution



All I need now is the E I tried using the following Vanode -Vcathode = Integral(E(r)dr)
but I have no idea how to form this E as I have no given charge :(
 
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You don't need to know the charge to find the E field. Hint: Assume that the E field is uniform between cathode and anode.
 
Doc Al said:
You don't need to know the charge to find the E field. Hint: Assume that the E field is uniform between cathode and anode.

Well integrating a constant would give a result of the form
E*(0.003)-E*(0) = Vanode-Vcathode
so E then is 2000/0.003 = giving a whopping 6.667e5
and making my electron accelerate at a speed of -1.15e17
Is that even possible ?
 
Why not? Electrons are pretty tiny. (That's an acceleration, not a speed.)
 
Doc Al said:
Why not? Electrons are pretty tiny. (That's an acceleration, not a speed.)

You're correct :)

now I have to calculate the speed after those 3mm and the time it takes to do so

for speed I use v = sqrt(v0+2a(0.003)) but as a is negative it results in a complex number so I just calculated it for -a and then reversed the sign at the end.
Is this a correct approach ? the text hints at calculating the time first but you'd need the velocity for that
 
sylvarant said:
for speed I use v = sqrt(v0+2a(0.003)) but as a is negative it results in a complex number so I just calculated it for -a and then reversed the sign at the end.
Whether the acceleration is negative or positive just depends on your sign convention. But the acceleration and the distance will have the same sign, so their product will always be positive. (If the electron accelerates to the right, it also moves to the right.)
Is this a correct approach ? the text hints at calculating the time first but you'd need the velocity for that
It's a fine approach. But you could certainly calculate the time first (using a different kinematic formula) without needing the velocity.
 
Ok, thanks
 
Potential difference = 2000V,


E = V/d = 2000/(3*10^-3) N/C
 

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