Please help I am finding the new speed and distance traveled of train. Thanks

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The problem involves a train with a specified mass and initial speed, experiencing a net backward force due to braking. The objective is to determine the new speed of the train and the distance traveled during the braking period.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Newton's second law and kinematic equations to find acceleration, final velocity, and distance. Some participants question the sign of the acceleration, suggesting it should be negative due to the train slowing down.

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Participants are actively discussing the implications of the sign of acceleration and its effect on the calculations. There is recognition of potential errors in the original poster's reasoning, particularly regarding the direction of acceleration.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their understanding of the physics concepts involved and seeks clarification on their calculations. There is also a note about the importance of quoting previous posts for context in the discussion.

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1. Homework Statement

A train has a mass of 5.77E+6 kg and is moving at 99.4 km/hr. The engineer applies the brakes, which results in a net backward force of 1.11E+6 N on the train. The brakes are held on for 26.9 s.

What is the new speed of the train?

How far does it travel during this period?

mass of train: 5,770,000 kg

speed of train: 99.4 km/hr (i converted it to m/s and got 27.611 m/s)

Backwards net force of: 1,110,000 N

Brakes held for: 26.9 s

2. Homework Equations

f=ma?

V=Vo+at?

X=Xo+(Vo)(t)+.5at^2?

3. The Attempt at a Solution

I am fairly new to physics and don't really know what I'm doing, anyways...first i used f=ma
and got a=.192 then i used that in the second equation and got V=1,110,005.165 N and then I plugged that into the third equation and got 29859069.4666 M but it said i was wrong :/.

Can someone please guide me through this problem? it would be much appreciated

-Thanks in advance!

Ok, so i tried it again and i was confident that i was correct.

i used f=ma to get a=.192

i then used a in the second equation ( V=27.611+.192(26.9)) to get a Velocity of 32.7758

i then used the 3rd equation to get a distance of 812.20246 m but it said it was wrong again.

can you help me clarify or show me where i went wrong?

Thanks
 
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If the train is braking, it is slowing down, so it's speed after the given elapsed time must be less than at the start. You are making an error in signage for the acceleration.
 
PhanthomJay said:
If the train is braking, it is slowing down, so it's speed after the given elapsed time must be less than at the start. You are making an error in signage for the acceleration.
so instead of .192 for Acceleration, would it be -.192?
 
keevo said:
so instead of .192 for Acceleration, would it be -.192?
Right.

Why did you delete your post here?
 
keevo said:
1. Homework Statement

A train has a mass of 5.77E+6 kg and is moving at 99.4 km/hr. The engineer applies the brakes, which results in a net backward force of 1.11E+6 N on the train. The brakes are held on for 26.9 s.

What is the new speed of the train?

How far does it travel during this period?

mass of train: 5,770,000 kg

speed of train: 99.4 km/hr (i converted it to m/s and got 27.611 m/s)

Backwards net force of: 1,110,000 N

Brakes held for: 26.9 s

2. Homework Equations

f=ma?

V=Vo+at?

X=Xo+(Vo)(t)+.5at^2?

3. The Attempt at a Solution

I am fairly new to physics and don't really know what I'm doing, anyways...first i used f=ma
and got a=.192 then i used that in the second equation and got V=1,110,005.165 N and then I plugged that into the third equation and got 29859069.4666 M but it said i was wrong :/.

Can someone please guide me through this problem? it would be much appreciated

-Thanks in advance!

Ok, so i tried it again and i was confident that i was correct.

i used f=ma to get a=.192

i then used a in the second equation ( V=27.611+.192(26.9)) to get a Velocity of 32.7758

i then used the 3rd equation to get a distance of 812.20246 m but it said it was wrong again.

can you help me clarify or show me where i went wrong?

Thanks

keevo said:
so instead of .192 for Acceleration, would it be -.192?

Can people please quote everything so we can restore threads when necessary? Thanks!
 

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