How stability is achieved in a bicycle?

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics of stability in bicycles, exploring the interplay of various forces such as the gyroscopic effect, weight distribution, and centrifugal force during motion and turning. Participants reflect on the complexity of the topic and its implications in understanding stability in other contexts, like aviation.

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  • One participant asserts that stability in a bicycle is achieved through the balance of the gyroscopic effect, weight of the cycle and rider, and centrifugal force when turning.
  • Another participant suggests that motion is essential for stability, noting that a stationary bicycle cannot maintain stability.
  • Some participants express that the analysis of bicycle stability is complex and may not have a satisfactory scientific explanation, drawing parallels to other phenomena like the slipperiness of ice.
  • A participant references previous discussions on the topic, indicating that this is a recurring theme in the forum.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of motion for stability but express differing views on the complexity of the underlying mechanics and whether a satisfactory explanation exists.

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The discussion highlights the interplay of various forces but does not resolve the assumptions or complexities involved in analyzing bicycle stability.

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I have always been under the impression that I totally understood the mechanics working behind the stability of a bicycle i.e. i) the gyroscopic effect of the spinning wheel ii) weight of cycle and rider and iii) the centrifugal force acting on the CG when the bicycle follows a curve path.

If the interplay between the above three major forces were balanced, the minor forces can be ignored and stability is achieved. This is how I always thought it works.

But recently I read an article which says that analyzing the stability of a bicycle is not that simple and that it is one of those seemingly simple things that science cannot answer 'satisfactorily', like "why is ice slippery?".

I am thinking, maybe how planes fly is also a bit like this. Even though most of the underlying principles are well understood, simulations, rigorous model tests in wind tunnels and actual flight tests are required to achieve the desired performance.

I know this is trivial but might be fun to discuss.
 

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I love physics and also this Physics Forums because of the questions like this. As a layman in mechanics world, I guess the motion helps its stability. He just can't sit on a motionless bicycle/mono-cycle
 
Yes, the gyroscopic effect and the centrifugal force acting against the 'lean' of the bicycle are zero if it is motionless.
 

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