Ansys maxwell 3d material library

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around adding a new material library in Ansys Maxwell 3D, specifically focusing on the properties and implementation of N50 magnets. Participants explore the necessary steps for material addition, the required magnetic properties, and troubleshooting issues related to coercivity values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about manually adding a new material library for magnets in Ansys Maxwell 3D.
  • Another participant provides a step-by-step method for adding materials, specifically mentioning the option to calculate properties for permanent magnets.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the properties of N50 magnets, specifically needing values for relative permeability (Mu) and magnetic coercivity (Hc) in addition to the Br value.
  • Several links to resources are shared to assist in finding the required properties of N50 magnets.
  • A participant successfully adds the N50 material but encounters a warning message regarding the coercivity value, questioning its significance.
  • Another participant clarifies that the coercivity value should be entered as a negative number, suggesting that this resolves the warning issue.
  • A participant shares their experience with Maxwell, mentioning their work on electric machine design and seeking advice on simulating a linear motor.
  • Concerns are raised about discrepancies in calculated vertical and horizontal forces in a project, with a request for assistance in addressing these issues.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the steps to add materials and the importance of entering coercivity values correctly. However, there are unresolved questions regarding the implications of the warning message and the specifics of the linear motor simulation, indicating ongoing exploration and differing experiences.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss specific values and calculations related to magnetic properties, but there is no consensus on the best approach to resolve the discrepancies in force calculations for the linear motor simulation.

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hi everybody. i just wonder. can we add new material library in ansys maxwell 3d(v.16) manually. especially magnets?
 
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Yes, of course, go to Tools -> Edit Configured Libraries -> Materials -> Add Material and then from the dropdown menu (Calculate Properties) choose Permanent Magnet.
 
but i don't know properties of N50 magnet. İ just found Br value. i need Mu and Hc values too. where can i find ?
 
http://www.rare-earth-magnets.com/Permanent-Magnet-Selection-and-Design-Handbook.pdf

http://cqxingying.en.alibaba.com/product/1289035910-218166817/Permanent_magnet_N35_N38_N40_N42_N45_N48_N50_N52_all_grades_of_monopole_strong_magnet.html
 
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thank you for your help
 
i just tried to add material N50 but i cant. could you tell me what i must do step by step if you know?
 
http://www.arnoldmagnetics.com/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&ItemID=5053
 
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OK

Mu is relative permeability. Mo*Mu is Slope of BH curve. If you guessed the curve of PM in the second quadrant linear, equation is

Mu*Mo=Br/Hc
Mo=4*pi*10^(-7)

For N50 is
Br=1.425
Hc=971 000

And Mu is: 1.167846519

If you want to enter the non-linear characteristic, then you must enter the point by point. In Maxwell Help, you have instructions for how to do it.
 
thank you so much :)
 
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i just tried. add new material -> calculate for permanent magnet

new windows comes up and i entered Mu and Hc values in their spaces and Br values calculated automaticly 1,425 .
i click ok button. so new material is added. but i got a warning message. the message is:

" Material 'n50_deneme': The magnitude of Magnetic Coercivity is expected to be <= 0. If you use a positive value the direction used will be the opposite of the unit vector specified. (12:54:09 Eki 30, 2013) "

still i do my analysis. and the force i calculated is bigger than NdFe35. it seems it work :)

but i wonder about the warning. is it important ?
 
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For Magnetic Coercivity you must put negative value: Hc=-971 000 A/m
 
  • #12
ok. i will try negative value. thank you for your help
 
  • #13
i change Hc value to negative and now it seems ok. thank you so much. may i ask what are you doing with maxwell?
 
  • #14
Of course
 
  • #15
I am doing design of electric machines
 
  • #16
i am so new at maxwell . only two moths. so my question is really simple :) i want to do a linear motor simulation. and i am studying on

SEW-EURODRİVE

typ: SL2-P050S-010

motor. but my desing is not even close with it :S
do you have some advice for me?
 
  • #17
Advice? :-) If you have any problems, you can ask me. If I knew, I'll help you
 
  • #18
ok than if i send you my project, design could you take a look? and have some problems too. so i can ask them.
 
  • #19
of course
 
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