What is Schmidt's Rule and its Meaning?

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The discussion revolves around the meaning of Schmidt's Rule, with participants exploring its definition and relevance in the context of crystallography and materials science. There is some confusion regarding whether the term refers to Schmidt's Rule or Goldschmidt's Rule, leading to a clarification of concepts related to crystal behavior and yield rules.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the meaning of Schmidt's Rule in relation to crystals.
  • Another participant suggests that the inquiry may actually pertain to Goldschmidt's Rule, which relates to substitutions in crystals that conserve oxidation state and ionic radius, minimizing strain.
  • A third participant introduces Schmidt's Law as a classical yield rule for single crystals, providing a mathematical expression involving slip direction, slip plane normal, and stress tensor.
  • A later reply acknowledges the potential confusion and suggests that the original poster may be referring to Schmidt's Rule rather than Goldschmidt's Rule, indicating a lack of familiarity with Schmidt's Rule.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether Schmidt's Rule or Goldschmidt's Rule is the correct reference, indicating multiple competing views and some uncertainty regarding the terminology.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity regarding the definitions and applications of Schmidt's Rule and Goldschmidt's Rule, as well as the relevance of the mathematical expression provided. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with these concepts among participants.

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I'd like to know what the meaning of this expression : a crystal obeys schmidt's rule (in fact i don' t know what is the schmidt's rule)
If someone can help me i'll be grateful.
Thx
 
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I think this is referring to Goldschmidt's Rule, which is an approximate rule of thumb telling you that substitutions that conserve oxidation state and ionic radius (approximately) introduce least strain in a crystal. This is something of an unwritten philosophy for a synthetic inorganic chemist or materials scientist. Pursuant to Goldschmidt's intuition was the excellent and extensive work done by Shannon and Prewitt on the influence of oxidation state on the ionic radius in a crystal. Shannon-Prewitt tables are a crystal-maker's Bible.

V. M. Goldschmidt was an early geochemist who contributed to the rise of crystallography and crystal chemistry in the mid-1920s.
 
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... and Schmidt's law is one classical yield rule used in single crystals,

[tex] \left|s^{(k)}_{i}\sigma_{ij}n^{(k)}_{j}\right| =\tau_{0}[/tex]

where [itex]s^{(k)}_{i}[/itex] are the components of the slip direction in the kth slip system, [itex]n^{(k)}_{j}[/itex]is the slip plane normal and [itex]\sigma_{ij}[/itex] the Cauchy stress tensor.
 
Now, I'm kinda sure that (Perennial's post) is what the OP wants. Ignore my previous post. Having had Goldschmidt sit in the back of my head for years made me think of his rule almost reflexively. Guess I should have Googled before posting to make sure there wasn't a Schmidt's Rule (I do not recall having seen it before).
 

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