Primes Definition and 291 Threads
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What is the mysterious identity that holds for primes and certain composites?
I would like to show that if a prime number P mod 8 is a) 1 or 7 or b) 3 or 5 then a) \frac{(P+1)}{2}(1-sqrt{2})(3+sqrt{8})^\frac{P-1}{2}+ \frac{(P+1)}{2}(1+sqrt{2})(3-sqrt{8})^\frac{P-1}{2} = (\frac{P-3}{2} + 2) mod P b) \frac{(P+1)}{2}(1-sqrt{2})(3+sqrt{8})^\frac{P-1}{2}+...- ramsey2879
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- Primes Property
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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For which primes P is the following true?
For which primes "P" is the following true? the function f(x) = x(x - 1) + p gives you a prime number for all x < p I've tried this with 5,11, and 41, but it doesn't work for 7 since 5(5-1) + 7 is not a prime. Btw, this isn't homework or anything, just a curiosity.- Wiz14
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- Primes
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Radical of the annihilator is the intersection of associated primes
1. Homework Statement R,M are Noetherian. Prove that the radical of the annihilator of an R-moduleM, Rad(ann(M)) is equal to the intersection of the prime ideals in the set of associated primes of M (that is denoted so regretfully that I am not even allowed to spell it out by the system)...- Barre
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- Intersection Primes Radical
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Every prime greater than 7 can be written as the sum of two primes
"Every prime greater than 7, P, can be written as the sum of two primes, A and B, and the subtraction of a third prime, C, in the form (A+B)-C, where A is not identical to B or C, B is not identical to C, and A, B, and C are less than P." True?- DbL
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- Prime Primes Sum
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Every prime greater than 7 can be written as the sum of two primes
"Every prime greater than 7, P, can be written as the sum of two primes, A and B, and the subtraction of a third prime, C, in the form (A+B)-C, where A is not identical to B or C, B is not identical to C, and A, B, and C are less than P." True?- DbL
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- Prime Primes Sum
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Find Gaps Between Primes: Formula & Tips
is there any formula to compute the gaps between primes which could be true to all prime numbers?..thanks..please help!- joan12
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- Primes
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- Forum: General Math
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Abelian group with order product of primes = cyclic?
It seems rather straight forward that if you have an abelian group G with \# G = p_1 p_2 \cdots p_n (these being different primes), that it is cyclic. The reason being that you have elements g_1, g_2, \cdots g_n with the respective prime order (Cauchy's theorem) and their product will have to...- nonequilibrium
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- Abelian group Cyclic Group Primes Product
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Evaluate in terms of powers of primes
33 x 42 __________________________ = 2 x 3-3 x 16 33-(-3) = 6 16 = 42 ... 42-2 = 0 so.. 36 x 2 <-- answer I guess I am not sure- luigihs
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- Primes Terms
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- Forum: Precalculus Mathematics Homework Help
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Extended Goldbach: every odd number the sum of 5 primes
Terence Tao has submitted a paper to arxiv: [1201.6656] Every odd number greater than 1 is the sum of at most five primes Its abstract: One can turn the Goldbach conjecture and similar problems into statements about certain integrals, but those integrals are VERY hard to do, and it has only...- lpetrich
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- Primes Sum
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Divergence of the sum of the reciprocals of the primes
Hi, can you tell me which theorem they have used here: http://everything2.com/title/proof+that+the+sum+of+the+reciprocals+of+the+primes+diverges i'm thinking on part: Well, there's an elementary theorem of calculus that a product (1-a1)...(1-ak)... with ak->0 converges to a nonzero value iff... -
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Show that the primes of the form 4n-1 and 4n +1 are infinite
Homework Statement Show that the number of primes of the form 4n-1 and 4n +1 are infinite Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I am able to show this for 4n -1 but I am having trouble doing it for primes of the other form. ( I am hoping to do it without using modular...- teddyayalew
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- Form Infinite Primes
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- Forum: Precalculus Mathematics Homework Help
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Are Complex Primes a Reality or Just a Concept?
Complex Numbers have always facinated me. But... Do complex primes exist? If so, How?- Dashin
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- Complex Primes
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- Forum: General Math
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Discover the Proof for Primes: Solving the Mystery of Interesting Sets"
Would like to see a proof for the following question. Let p be a prime number. Define a set interesting if it has p+2 (not necessarily distinct) positive integers such than the sum of any p numbers is a multiple of each of the other two. Find all interesting sets.- newchie
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- Primes Proof
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Infinitely many primes in every row of array
I asked this question on one another forum but didn't get any answer . Consider the following array of natural numbers : \begin{array}{ccccccccc} 1 & 2 & 4 & 7 & 11 & 16 & 22 & 29 & \ldots \\ 3 & 5 & 8 & 12 & 17 & 23 & 30 & 38 & \ldots \\ 6 & 9 & 13 & 18 & 24 & 31 & 39 & 48 & \ldots...- pedja
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- Array Primes Row
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Proving the Existence of Prime Divisors for Composite Numbers
Homework Statement Prove the following Theorem. Let n ε Z. If n ≥ 2 and n is composite, then there exists a prime p such that p divides n and p ≤ √n. After proving this Theorem show that if 757 is not a prime, then it has a prime divisor p ≤ 23. The Attempt at a Solution I...- FreshUC
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- Primes Proof
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Is the concept of prime numbers biased by their factorization definitions?
--> Why are prime numbers so important to number theory? (Apart from speculations of being connected to energy levels of complex quantum systems.) --> Let for time being, primes that we know of, be called primes of "type-2". Here '2' comes from the definition of primes. Since we consider...- sciencecrazy
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- Bias Factors Primes
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Proving the Infinitude of Primes: Euler's Proof and Its Limitations
Infinite primes proof? Someone told me Euler proved that there are infinitely many prime numbers by proving that the sum of their reciprocals is infinite. I have one concern. How can you prove the infinitude of primes by this method without assuming the set to be infinite in the first place.- MostlyConfusd
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- Infinite Primes Proof
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Logarithmic Integral and Primes
Hey guys, I was reading a brief article which described the logarithmic integral for approximating π(x) in two ways: ∫x/log(x) dx and ∫1/log(x) dx I am aware that the second is the actual definition of li(x) but the top is used extremely frequently and upon trying out the top it...- Frogeyedpeas
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- Integral Logarithmic Primes
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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New Test for Primes form 8n =/- 3
As Dodo noted, my prior test excluded some primes of the form 8n +/- 3, e.g. 29. I discovered a new property of the recursive series used in the prior test to allow a correction that apparently includes all primes of the form 8n +/- 3 but apparently includes no composites. The property of the...- ramsey2879
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- Form Primes Test
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Question about sum of primes and sample size
My question is this, is there a known convergence of the sum of primes divided by the square of the sample size? I've just been looking at it, admittedly with only the first 50,000 primes, and it looks as if it is converging on a number near 6. If you plot the points below, you might see what...- neopolitan
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- Primes Sample size Sum
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Counting function for powers of primes
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- Counting Function Primes
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Discovering Ramsey Primes Under 1 Million
Ramsey Primes are those generated from a simple criteria that is easy to check. I checked all odd numbers from 1 to 1 million and 29455 numbers met the criteria. None were composite. The check is to do the following sequence mod P and check to see that the (P-1)/2 term is zero and no term...- ramsey2879
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- Primes
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Is It Reasonable to Assume a Prime Gap of at Least 10 Before Twin Primes?
If we assume that the Twin Prime Conjecture is true (and thus there are infinite number of primes that are 2 apart), how reasonable is it to assume that there will be an infinite number of Twin Primes that are preceded by a prime that is at least 10 lower than the first of the Twin Primes? (I...- Nelphine
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- Gap Pair Prime Primes
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Python Python program to verify primes
Homework Statement I'm supposed to write a program which asks for an integer input, then determines if the input is a prime or not. I wrote a program but I have 2 issues: 1) It works well for primes up to around the size of 30000~, then above that (I just tried 65537, for a weak upper bound)...- llstelle
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- Primes Program Python
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- Forum: Programming and Computer Science
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A prime by itself is considered a (length one) product of primes?
Hi all, I am spending some time learning discrete mathematics on my own using the MIT OpenCourseWare materials. On page the second to last page of the Chapter 2 notes from here...- ILikeToLearn
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- Prime Primes Product
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- Forum: Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
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Difference in Powers of Odd Primes
I'm curious, can anyone think of a way to prove whether or not p^x - d^y = p - d, for any odd primes p,d and natural numbers x,y where x,y are not equal to one? This would be useful for a proof I am trying to work on. So far, I have found that 3^2 - 2^3 = 3 - 2, but for this proof I am...- omalleyt
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- Difference Primes
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Can the sum of two primes be prime if both primes are odd?
Homework Statement If the sum of two primes is prime, then one of the primes must be 2. The Attempt at a Solution Proof: Since all primes bigger than 2 are odd the only way to get a sum of two primes to be odd is to add an odd prime with an even prime. Let y be an odd prime such that...- cragar
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- Primes Proof
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Two primes in a Primitive Pythagorean Triangle
Let's recall the Euclidean Rule for Pythagorean Triangles: Let (m,n) be co-prime natural numbers (m<n), then h := n^{2} + m^{2} e := 2 m n d := n^{2} - m^{2} = (n - m) * (n + m) form the hypothenuse, the even and the odd leg of a primitive Pythagorean triangle (PPT) If we...- RamaWolf
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- Primes Primitive Triangle
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Proof by contradiction - polynomials and infinite primes
Homework Statement Two Questions: 1. Prove, by contradiction, that if a and b are integers and b is odd,, then -1 is not a root of f(x)= ax^2+bx+a. 2. Prove, by contradiction, that there are infinitely many primes as follows. Assume that there only finite primes. Let P be the largest...- bloynoys
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- Contradiction Infinite Polynomials Primes Proof Proof by contradiction
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Box of primes over l V X a l ^2
"box of primes" over l V X a l ^2 Homework Statement Find B, and t for these space curves (t = torsion) r(t) = (3sint)i + (3cost)j + 4tk Homework Equations Ok, so in my textbook i have two different equations to find the answer to this. the "box of primes" over l V X a l ^2...- maysenator
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- Box Primes
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Notation Convention: Primes in Coordinate Transformations
I have seen in various locations different conventions regarding the location of a prime symbol denoting a tensor represented in a new frame. For example, if the position four-vector is x^{\mu} then this four-vector in a different frame is often written as either x'^{\mu} or...- Steely Dan
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- Convention Coordinate Coordinate transformations Notation Primes Transformations
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Test Primes: Find an Exception for P > 3? - Ken Ramsey
Can anyone find an exception to this test for odd P > 3? P = Input an odd number > 3 Msg = "not Prime" A = 4 B = 32 Do C = B B = Mod(6*C - A + 8,P) A = C If A = 4 Then If B != 0 Then Exit Do Else Msg = "Prime" Exit Do End If End If If B = 0 Then Exit Do Loop...- ramsey2879
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- Primes Test
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Primes and Associates in Rings
Homework Statement Let a, b be members of a commutative ring with identity R. If a is a a prime and a, b are associates then b is also prime. True/False Homework Equations Definitions: a is prime if a|xy implies a|x or a|y a and b are associates if there exists a unit u s.t a=bu...- Zoe-b
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- Primes Rings
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Product of primes less than or equal to n
Homework Statement I'm working on a problem and as long as I can show that [tex] \prod_{p\leq n}p \leq \prod_{n<p\leq 2n}p [/ tex] then I'm done. But I'm having trouble with this..Can someone help? :-p Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I tried to use PNT but could not solve it...- R.P.F.
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- Primes Product
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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How do primes come out of Peano arithmetic?
Let (N, s(n), 0) be a Peano space. That is, N=\{1,2,3,\dots \} is a set in which http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peano_arithmetic" can be used. We can then define: 0=\varnothing, 1=\{0\}, 2=\{0,1\},\dots \implies n=\{0,1,2,\dots ,n-2,n-1\} s(a)=a\cup \{a\}\implies s(a)=a+1 From here we...- Kindayr
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- Arithmetic Peano Primes
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Fibonacci primes equinumerous with the set of Natural numbers?
I believe that Fibonacci primes are infinite. Currently there is no proof that there is an infinite number of Fibonacci primes. I was wondering why we couldn't compare the set of Fibonacci primes to the set of Natural Numbers and demonstrate that both have cardinality aleph null? Indeed, why...- fibonacci235
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- Natural Natural numbers Numbers Primes Set
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Why Is Proving the Infinity of Fibonacci Primes So Challenging?
I have read that we do not know if there are an infinite number of Fibonacci primes. So far, no one has produced a proof to show if they are infinite. I wanted to know why this seems to be so challenging? I'm sure it is, and maybe there is a subtle mathematical principle I am missing. I...- fibonacci235
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- Primes
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Mathematica [Mathematica] How many circular primes below 1E+6
Circular meaning all of its digit rotations are also prime.PrimeLimit = 1000000; NoRotate = Select[Range[PrimeLimit], PrimeQ]; Rotate1 = Select[FromDigits[#] & /@ (RotateLeft[IntegerDigits[#]] & /@ Select[Range[PrimeLimit], PrimeQ]), PrimeQ]; Rotate2 = Select[FromDigits[#] & /@...- martix
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- Circular Mathematica Primes
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- Forum: MATLAB, Maple, Mathematica, LaTeX
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Is the sum of all primes = 13?
I posted this to Dr. Math but I'm too excited to wait for their response. OK, so start with the following equation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_%2B_2_%2B_3_%2B_4_%2B_%E2%80%A6#Summability" by Ramanujan and Euler: 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ... = -1/12 Weird, yes, but there are...- ClaytonB
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- Primes Sum
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- Forum: General Math
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Can you prove this statement for any values of a and b?
I'm not exactly sure how to prove or disprove this statement. Just by looking at the c, I'd say it's not true, but I'm not sure how to show it either way. If (a,b) = 1 and (a,c) = 1, then (ac,b) = 1. http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n149/camarolt4z28/IMG_20110719_192439-1.jpg?t=1311127377- Shackleford
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- Gcd Primes Relative
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Number of Primes Between n and 2n
As we travel further up the number line, primes become more scarce. But, as n grows larger and larger, the range of numbers between n and 2n grows larger ad larger. Do these two counteract each other? Does this cause the number of primes between n and 2n to stay relatively consistant...- 1MileCrash
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- Primes
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Finding Primes: A Divisor summatory function
Divisor summatory function is a function that is a sum over the divisor function. It can be visualized as the count of the number of lattice points fenced off by a hyperbolic surface in k dimensions. My visualization is of a different conic , one of a parabola. In fact my lattice points are not...- JeremyEbert
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- Function Primes
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Is p Prime if gcd(a, p) = 1 or p Divides a?
Homework Statement prove that p is prime iff for any integer "a" either (a,p)=1 or p divides a (where (a,p) denotes the gcd of a and p) Homework Equations (a,b)= the greatest common factor of a and b The Attempt at a Solution I had no trouble with proving the forward direction...- AlexChandler
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- Gcd Primes Proof
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Odd Prime Triples: Find & Explore Solutions!
I got this question from another forum and it's driving me crazy. Find all triples of odd primes, p,q,r such that p^2+1 is divisible by q, q^2+1 is divisible by r and r^2+1 is divisible by p. Two such triples are 5,13,17 and 17,29,421. If we assume p<q<r, then there are no other such triples...- steiner1745
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- Primes Ring
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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How to prove 'infinite primes' kind of problem
Other than the Eucledean method (1+p1p2p3...)and so on other than this, how do we prove that there are infinite prime numbers? in algebreic way (excluding analyses)- l-1j-cho
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- Primes
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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Primes and arithmetic progressions.
The prime number theorem describes the distribution of the prime numbers, in a sense. Are there other prime number theorems corresponding the asymptotic distributions of primes in other arithmetic progressions containing infinitely many primes? I was just wondering.- hansenscane
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- Arithmetic Primes
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- Forum: Linear and Abstract Algebra
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A Composite Number Containing Only Two Primes
Let N be composite number containing only two primes a and b That is, N=a*b, where a and b are primes Factorizing N[even on a computer] is an impossible task if N is very large,for example if it has 400 digits. But we can eliminate a huge number of divisors by the following rules: 1.If n...- Anamitra
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- Composite Primes
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- Forum: Programming and Computer Science
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Prove sum of two primes is even
Homework Statement Prove: If a and b are prime numbers larger than 2, then a + b is even. The Attempt at a Solution Can i just say that prime numbers larger than 2 are odd and then prove that the sum of 2 odd numbers is even. And can i say that prime numbers larger than 2 are odd because...- cragar
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- even Primes Sum
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Integer factorization given enough primes
I realize that this might seems to be a strange question, but after doing some coding i realized the following. to brute force the factorization of all numbers less than one million takes around 665 million tests (i.e. does this number divide the original). to do it "smarter" (least i...- soandos
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- Factorization Integer Primes
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Primes whose digits sum to a prime
Is there a name for prime numbers whose digits sum to a prime number? For example, the prime 83 gives 8+3=11, a prime. Is there anything known about these primes, e.g. are there infinitely many of them? Thanks, M- Mooky
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- Prime Primes Sum
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- Forum: General Math