1.0kg physics book on slope, and Newton's Third Law?

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a 1.0 kg book on a 20-degree slope connected to a 500 g coffee cup. The book is pushed up the slope with an initial speed of 3.0 m/s, and the coefficients of static and kinetic friction are 0.50 and 0.20, respectively. The user initially calculated the net force and acceleration but arrived at an incorrect distance of 0.446 m instead of the correct 0.67 m. The solution involves correctly accounting for the tension in the string, which changes due to the acceleration of the cup.

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Homework Statement



A 1.0 kg physics book is on a 20 degree slope. It is connected by a string to a 500 g coffee cup dangling at the bottom side of the incline. The book is given a push up the slope and released with a speed of 3.0 m/s. The coefficients of friction are us = .50 and uk = .20.

a. How far does the book slide?
b. At the highest point, does the book stick to the slope, or does it slide back down?



Homework Equations



F=m*a
vf^2 = vi^2 + 2as



The Attempt at a Solution



So I found four forces: Tension of the rope pulled by the weight, fk (friction force), force of gravity at a 20 degree angle, and normal force.
n = mgcosx = (9.8)(1)cos20 N...fk = uk*n = (.2)n = 1.842 N
T = mass of cup * 9.8 = 4.9 N
Fg = mgsinx = (1)(9.8)sin20 = 3.35 N

...so I get (Fnet)x = ma = -4.9N - 1.842N - 3.35N = -10.095
...so... a = (-10.095)/(1) = -10.095 m/s^2

But when I put this value of acceleration into vf^2 = vi^2 + 2as, or 0=9 + 2(-10.095)s, I get .446m.
The correct answer is .67m. What did I do wrong? I'm pretty sure it's around the (Fnet)x part.


Thanks for any help.
 
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Hi Jthunder! Welcome to PF! :smile:
Jthunder said:
A 1.0 kg physics book is on a 20 degree slope. It is connected by a string to a 500 g coffee cup dangling at the bottom side of the incline. The book is given a push up the slope and released with a speed of 3.0 m/s. The coefficients of friction are us = .50 and uk = .20.

T = mass of cup * 9.8 = 4.9 N

No, the cup is accelerating, so T will be different.

Either do two F = ma equations (one for the book, one for the cup), and eliminate T, or just treat the book and the cup as a single body, as if it was one-dimensional, and calculate the external forces on it, along that dimension. :wink:
 

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