12.5.4 Find parametric equations .

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The discussion revolves around finding parametric equations for a line that passes through a specific point and is perpendicular to two given vectors. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanation related to vector operations and parametric equations.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests clarification on how to find parametric equations using two vectors.
  • Another participant suggests computing the vector product of the two given vectors to find a perpendicular vector or solving a system of equations.
  • A participant provides a detailed calculation of the cross product and derives the parametric equations from the point P(-3, -4, -2).
  • Some participants point out a potential error regarding the sign in the determinant used for the cross product and confirm the equations for x and z.
  • There is a mention that the coordinates of the vector from the cross product can be multiplied by any nonzero number, indicating flexibility in the representation.
  • One participant comments on the forum's culture of highlighting typos, contrasting it with experiences in other forums.
  • Another participant notes that the book's answers have been incorrect at times, suggesting caution in relying solely on them.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correctness of the signs in the determinant and the resulting parametric equations. There is no consensus on the final form of the equations, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the accuracy of the initial answer provided.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in the cross product calculation, and there are dependencies on the interpretation of signs in the determinant. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the reliability of external resources such as textbooks.

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$\textsf{Find parametric equations .}$
$\textsf{of the line through the point }$
$$P(-3, -4, -2)$$
$\textsf{and perpendicular to the vectors }$
$$u = -6i + 2j + 8k$$and $$v = -7i + 5 j - 2k$$
$\textit{Answer:$\displaystyle x = -44t - 3 , y = -68t - 4, z = -16t - 2 $} $
ok how is this done with 2 vectors
 
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You can find a vector perpendicular to $(-6,2,8)$ and $(-7,5,-2)$ by computing the vector product of these vectors or by finding any nontrivial solution to the system of equations $$\left\{\begin{align}-6x+2y+8z&=0\\-7x+5y-2z&=0\end{align}\right.$$.
 
$\displaystyle \begin{bmatrix}
i & j & k\\ -6 &2 &8\\ -7 &5 &-2 \end{bmatrix}
= \begin{bmatrix} 2&8\\ 5&-2 \end{bmatrix}i
- \begin{bmatrix}-6&8\\-7&-2 \end{bmatrix}j
+ \begin{bmatrix}-6&2\\-7&5 \end{bmatrix}k
=-44i-68j-16k\\$
$\text{so the parametric would be from P(-3,-4,-2)}$
\begin{align*}
x&=-44t-3,y=-68t-4,z=-16t-2
\end{align*}
 
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The sign before the determinant multiplied by $j$ should be a minus. The equation for $x$ should be $x=-44t-3$ and for $z$ it should be $z=-16t-2$. You can multiply all coordinates of the vector (cross) product by any nonzero number, for example, by $-1/4$.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
The sign before the determinant multiplied by $j$ should be a minus. The equation for $x$ should be $x=-44t-3$ and for $z$ it should be $z=-16t-2$. You can multiply all coordinates of the vector (cross) product by any nonzero number, for example, by $-1/4$.

Well one thing nice here at MHB is the typos are shown
other forums rarely do that

however the book answers have had wrong answers at times
 

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