2 Things: Work-Energy theorem and parabolic trajectories.

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The discussion centers on the work-energy theorem and the nature of parabolic trajectories under constant forces. It explains that the integral of force over displacement equals the change in energy, represented as ∫f • ds = ΔE. When a constant force acts on a particle, it leads to a parabolic trajectory, derived from integrating the equations of motion. The participants clarify that while the work formula is a definition, the work-energy theorem can be derived under specific conditions. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the relationship between force, energy, and motion in physics.
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Hi,

When reading through the work-energy thread, i just got reminded of something bugging me for quite a while. I don't think this is mentioned in the work-energy thread, firstly, how can we show that,

\int f \bullet ds = \Delta E

also,

I've heard that there's a way to show that when only one force acts on a particle or something, the particle follows a parabolic trajectory. Is there a way to show this?

thanks...
 
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If there is a constant (non-zero) force acting on something, it follows a parabolic trajectory. That's because, taking the x-axis perpendicular to the constant force, integrating a constant twice (from \frac{d^2y}{dt^2}= \frac{F}{m} to \frac{dy}{dt}= \frac{F}{m}t+ v_0 to y= \fra{F}{2m}t^2+ v_0t+ y_0[/tex]) we get a quadratic in t while x, with 0 acceleration, is linear in t.<br /> <br /> (There&#039;s <b>always</b> &quot;only one force&quot; on something- the net force.)
 
HallsofIvy said:
If there is a constant (non-zero) force acting on something, it follows a parabolic trajectory. That's because, taking the x-axis perpendicular to the constant force, integrating a constant twice (from \frac{d^2y}{dt^2}= \frac{F}{m} to \frac{dy}{dt}= \frac{F}{m}t+ v_0 to y= \fra{F}{2m}t^2+ v_0t+ y_0[/tex]) we get a quadratic in t while x, with 0 acceleration, is linear in t.<br /> <br /> (There&#039;s <b>always</b> &quot;only one force&quot; on something- the net force.)
<br /> <br /> ohhhh ok, that helped alot, thanks..<br /> <br /> Anyone with the work question?
 
You can't derive the work formula, as it is a definition. You can, however justify why the definition is a good one with a little bit of logical reasoning.

Claude.
 
But you can certainly derive the Work-Energy theorem. Taking the simplest case, where the direction of the net force remains fixed:
\int f \bullet ds = \int m a \bullet ds = m \int \frac{dv_s}{dt} ds = m \int v_s \ dv_s = \Delta (1/2 m v_s^2)
 
oh ok thanks, that's what I'm looking for.

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