Engineering 2nd Degree Inderteminacy for Structure Using Force Method

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The discussion focuses on calculating support reactions for a frame structure using the force method. The user describes the dimensions of the frame and their approach to making the frame statically determinate by removing redundants at the pinned support. They successfully compute horizontal displacement due to a unit load but struggle with vertical deflection resulting from the same load. Participants point out issues with the posted diagrams, noting that the deformations depicted do not accurately reflect the actual behavior of the structure, particularly concerning hinge movements and joint angles. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurate diagram representation in structural analysis.
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Dear all

I am trying to find the support reactions on the following structure:

Structure.png


The frame member in the horizontal is 8m long and in the vertical the member is 5m.

To do this I am using the force method (or unit load method or virtual work method).

Firstly, I removing the redundants at the pinned support to make a statically determinant frame as shown below:

Removing redundant.png


Next, I apply units loads in place of the pinned support that looks like this:

Unit loads.png



Firstly, lets consider the horizontal unit load. I need the displacement in the parallel and perpendicular directions as a result of this horizontal unit load.

Calculating the horizontal displacement as a result of this load is no problem. It is simply the sumof the integration of the bending moments.

Virtual structure Moment.png


So, the moment functions are: Mx = -1*x and Mx = 5. Hence, the integration to compute the delection in the horizontal direction is

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The area where I am a little stuck is computing the vertical deflection as a result of the horizontal unit load.

If you see here from the software the vertical displacement is 4.074 mm.

Virtual structure displacement.png

So my question is: how do I calculate this displacement using the force method?


Many thanks in advance.
 

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I can follow your description, but it is impossible to see details of the posted diagrams.
 
Hi Lnewqban,

Sorry for this.

Is this any better?

Frame:

Frame.png


Statically Determinant Frame
Primary Structure.png


Application of Unit Loads:
Unit loads.png


Bending Moment diagram for horizontal unit load:

bending moment.png


Displacement for horizontal unit load:

displacement.png


Bending moment diagram for vertical unit load:

bending moment 2.png


Displacement for vertical unit load:

displacement2.png
 

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The numbers can't be clearly seen still.
I see that the diagrams shown the deformation do not match how the structure would really deform.
Hinge 3 can't move horizontally and joint 2 can't move upwards.
The beam located next to 1 can't remain horizontal due to the distributed load.
The angle of joint 2 should remain more or less 90°.
 
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