3D cloaking changing gravitational lensing ?

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The discussion explores whether advancements in 3D cloaking technology, particularly optical and time-shifting versions, could challenge the validity of gravitational lensing as evidence for gravity. Participants speculate on the potential of these cloaking methods to mimic redshifting effects seen in gravitational lensing phenomena. The conversation highlights recent findings regarding crystalline and amorphous glass structures around celestial bodies, suggesting they may influence gravitational interactions. There is curiosity about how these materials' phase-shifting properties could relate to dark matter and dark energy. Overall, the implications of 3D cloaking on gravitational lensing and cosmic observations are under examination.
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Do the new optical and time shifting versions of 3D cloaking present a challenge to gravitational lensing as a valid proof of gravity ?

Am curious if the time shifting constituent of the theories can mimic the redshifting observed in arcs and lenses also.

Seems that with the findings of the crystalline structures of of glasses around bodies and amorphourus glasses around systems and galactic scale structures, the phase shifting of these materials would have some profound implications here.

Maybe enough to cover the dark matter part of the spectrum (sic), if not the dark energy proportion.

I see there has already been some discussion on this matter,but has anyone looked at the redshift (angle) yet ?

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Transformation_optics

http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-pentagon-backed-cloak-clock.html
 
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Hypervelocity said:
Do the new optical and time shifting versions of 3D cloaking present a challenge to gravitational lensing as a valid proof of gravity ?

Why would it?

Seems that with the findings of the crystalline structures of of glasses around bodies and amorphourus glasses around systems and galactic scale structures, the phase shifting of these materials would have some profound implications here.

I've never heard of this. What do you mean?
 
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