A block on a frictionless circular ramp

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The problem involves a block moving down a frictionless circular ramp and subsequently interacting with surfaces of varying friction. Key elements include the block's mass, initial velocity, and the spring constant, with a focus on applying conservation of energy principles at different stages of motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy to find the block's velocity at various positions and how to account for friction. There are questions about the ramp's height and angle, as well as the interpretation of the flat surface. Some participants suggest specific equations to use, while others express confusion about how to manipulate these equations to find the final velocity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing equations and guidance on how to approach the problem. However, there is a lack of consensus on the best method to apply, and several participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the steps involved.

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Participants are working with given values such as the mass of the block, initial velocity, and spring constant, but there are questions about the ramp's dimensions and the effects of friction that remain unresolved.

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1. The problem statement, ramp. variables and given/known data
A block with mass m=5kg is placed at position A and given an initial velocity Va=2m/s Down a frictionless circular ramp. Between positions B and C it travels over a flat rough surface having a coefficient of kinetic friction Mk=.25. Finally it travels over a flat frictionless surface and contacts am uncompressed so spring with spring constant k=1250N/m. The block comresses the spring at distance Delta (X) and comes to rest at position D.


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A) beginning at position A use conservation of energy to calculate the blocks velocity when it reaches position B

B) begimning at position B use conservation of energy to calculate the block's velocity when it reaches position C . Don't forget friction!

C) beginning at position C use conservation of energy to calculate the distance Delta(X) that the spring is compressed when the block reaches position D

D) starting over at position A use conservation of energy directly between positions A and D and show that you get the same distance Delta(X) as part c) without having to calculate the velocities at position B and C

3.Please I'm super lost and have tried everything can someone solve and show me?!
 
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how tall (or long with angle) is the ramp?
CoE:
A)[itex]\frac{1}{2} mv_{initial}^2 +mg\Delta h = \frac{1}{2} mv_{final}^2[/itex] where h is either given or = [itex]dsin(\theta)[/itex]
B) do the same thing, but include friction as part of the work term [itex]W = mg\Delta h - \mu N\Delta x[/itex]
C) again, do the same thing, I'm assuming flat means level? so
[itex]\frac{1}{2}mv_{InitialAfterC}^2 = \frac{1}{2}k\Delta x^2[/itex] W=0, no friction, and mg sin theta = 0, so all kinetic energy goes into compressing the spring (potential)
i'm not crunching the numbers for you, but that should work, give it a shot.
 
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Ramp is 3m!
 
Can you please since it I have no ideas how to change the formula to get velocity final
 
what do you mean? i gave you the equation. plug in 1/2, plug in m, plug in initial velocity. that gives you the first term, which is a number. then plug in m, plug in g, plug in h. that gives you the second term which is a number. then plug in 1/2, plug in m, and keep v final ^2 which gives you some number times v final^2.

you get some number = some number times v final^2 . plug it into your calulator, its a 16 =4x^2 type equation, and I'm confident you can solve it. once you get v final for A), use that for v inital for B) and so on.

this forum is for homework help not for us to give you the answers, which i pretty much did already.
 
I tried I got stuck help me :(
 

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