A conceptual question concerning with the Span of Matrix

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the span of the columns and rows of a matrix in reduced row echelon form (RREF), specifically when the matrix is described as having a "perfect staircase" configuration that supposedly leads to a unique solution.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of having a unique solution on the linear dependence of columns and the nature of the row span. Questions arise regarding the definition of "perfect staircase" and its relation to unique solutions, with some participants seeking clarification on the term and its application to specific matrix examples.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the definitions and assumptions surrounding the term "perfect staircase" and its implications for the uniqueness of solutions. There is a recognition of differing interpretations of matrix forms and their properties, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the terminology used to describe matrix forms and the conditions under which unique solutions occur. The original poster's use of "perfect staircase" is challenged, and examples are provided to illustrate differing scenarios related to pivot columns and solution uniqueness.

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Homework Statement



Let A = matrix of size m x n, where m can or cannot be equal to n. The matrix is Rref(A) is in a "perfect staircase" in which exists a unique solution. What can you comment about the Span of the column and row of this matrix?





The Attempt at a Solution



I am honestly stuck...

I am guessing it can span and the columns must be linearly dependent since we have a unique solution. But the row part confuses me
 
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flyingpig said:

Homework Statement



Let A = matrix of size m x n, where m can or cannot be equal to n. The matrix is Rref(A) is in a "perfect staircase" in which exists a unique solution. What can you comment about the Span of the column and row of this matrix?





The Attempt at a Solution



I am honestly stuck...

I am guessing it can span and the columns must be linearly dependent since we have a unique solution. But the row part confuses me
What does '"it" can span' mean? You should strive to make statements that are more meaningful, and in particular minimize the use of "it" unless the antecedent (what "it" refers to) is crystal clear.

I'm not sure what "perfect staircase" means. I've never seen that term used to describe a matrix in RREF form.

Is these matrices in perfect staircase form?
[tex]\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}[/tex]

[tex]\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1\\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}[/tex]

Is this one not in perfect staircase form?
[tex]\begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 & 0 & 0\\ 0 & 0 & 1 & 0\end{bmatrix}[/tex]
 
When I mean "perfect staircase", I mean a unique solution, a pivot column in every row.
 
I don't think that "perfect staircase" means "unique solution."
Here's the situtation for the three matrices I showed.
1. Unique solution (x = y = z = 0).
2. Unique solution (same as #1) but no pivot column in row 4.
3. Infinite number of solutions (x = 0, y = 0, z = 0, w = t, t in reals) and there is a pivot column in each row.
 

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