A convergence and divergence test and a couple integrals

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The discussion revolves around convergence and divergence tests for series and various integrals. The original poster presents five separate problems, including a series and several integrals, expressing difficulty in finding solutions and indicating a potential missing premise.

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  • Participants suggest using the integral test for the series and various substitution methods for the integrals. There are discussions about the effectiveness of the ratio test and comparisons of logarithmic values.

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Some participants provide hints and substitutions for the integrals, while others express confusion about the series convergence and the implications of their findings. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in the problems, with no clear consensus reached on the solutions.

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Participants note issues with parentheses in the integral expressions and the challenges posed by certain substitutions leading to complicated forms. There is also mention of the original poster's struggle with integrating specific functions and the implications of their results.

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Here are five separate problems.

Show that the series 1/3^(ln(n)) converges and that the series 1/2^(ln(n)) diverges.

integral (sqrt(x)*e^-sqrt(x)) dx

integral (x/(sqrt(x-1)+2)) dx

integral (1/(2+sin(x)+cos(x)

integral (1-cos(x))^(5/2)) dx

There are no other relevant equations.

My attempts at solution lead nowhere and are too long-winded to post. I believe I am just missing one important premise I need to solve these. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Here are some top-level hints:

OK, for the series, try using the integral test.

For integral #1, make the obvious u substitution, then integrate by parts twice.
For integral #2, make the obvious u substitution, then grind through the rational polynomials integrations.
For integral #3, use the tangent half-angle substitution.
For integral #4, do two u substitutions.
 
Thanks for the help.

I made a slight parentheses mistake with the last two integrals. They should be:

integral (1/(2+sin(x)+cos(x)) dx

integral ((1-cos(x))^(5/2)) dx

Does this change your hints at all? I tried manipulating the tangent half-angle formula, but I just turns into mess.

With the 4th integral it seems that no matter what I substitute I end up with nasty, unmanageable square roots when I try to get rid of the sin(x) that comes with the dx.

I'd be grateful for any more help.
 
For the third integral, we make the substitution t = \tan \frac{x}{2}. Then:

\sin x = \frac{2t}{1+t^2}, \cos x = \frac{1 - t^2}{1 + t^2}, dx = \frac{2}{1 + t^2} dt.

OK, so plug all that in and simplify; you wind up with this:

\int \frac{2 dt}{3 + t^2 + 2t}

Now just do a little rearranging/substitution to get it into a familiar inverse trig form, and everything is spiffy.

For the fourth integral, you have:

\int (1 - \cos x)^{\frac{5}{2}} dx

Make the substitution u = 1 - \cos x. So du = \sin x dx.

Now there isn't a \sin x handy in your original integrand, but that's ok.

Suppose we took 2 - u, which is 1 + \cos x , and we multiplied it by u, which is 1 - \cos x . That gives us 1 - \cos^2 x, which is conveniently equal to \sin^2 x .

So \sin x = \sqrt{u(2-u)}. Since this is part of du, we need to divide the integrand by it. We conveniently have a factor of \sqrt{u} already in the integrand, so we just divide out the \sqrt{2-u} term, which gives us:

\int \frac{u^2}{\sqrt{2-u}} du

I'm sure you can take it from here.
 
Awesome. Thanks for the help!

I have a question about the series, though. I can show that the series is always decreasing but I don't know how to integrate 1/3^(ln(n)). I tried using a u-substitution and I ended up with the integral of (e^u/3^u) du which I don't know how to deal with either.

Somebody told me I should use the ratio test, but it ended up being the limit as n goes to infinity of 3^((n)-(n+1)) which is 1 so the result told me nothing. She also said to compare the values of ln(2) and ln(3), but those aren't even in the series. I'm still lost with this problem.
 
I don't see how you can use the ratio test for this one, although I may be missing something.

To integrate \int a^{- \ln x} dx, make the substitution u = a^{- \ln x}. Now du will have an x in the denominator by the chain rule, so you'll need to find a way to express x in terms of u (hint: a^{\log_a x} = x). Once you do one of the integrals, the other one is just the same. Then simply show that the a = 3 integral converges, while the a=2 integral diverges.

Then, for fun, make a general statement about the series convergence for any value of a.
 
I ended up with the integral of -(u*x)/(ln(3)*3^-ln(x)) du

I solved for x and found x = e^log_3(u)

After substituting I got -(e^log_3(u)*u)/(ln(3)*3^-log_3(u)) du which baffles me.
If I wanted to I could change 3^-log_3(u) into 1/u but I still don't see where to go from there.
 
\int a^{- \ln x} dx
Make the substitution:
u = a^{- \ln x}
du = \frac{(\ln a) (a^{- \ln x})}{x} dx = \frac{(\ln a) u}{x} dx

Find x in terms of u:
\log_a u = - \ln x

\frac{\ln u}{\ln a} = -\ln x

x = -u^{\frac{1}{\ln a}}

So now:
du = \frac{(\ln a) (a^{- \ln x})}{x} dx = \frac{(\ln a) u}{-u^{\frac{1}{\ln a}}} dx

du = -(\ln a) u^{1 - \frac{1}{\ln a}} dx

OK, now back into the original integral. To make the du work, we need to divide the original integral by -(\ln a) u^{1 - \frac{1}{\ln a}}. So:

\int a^{- \ln x} dx = - \int \frac{u}{(\ln a)(u^{1 - \frac{1}{\ln a}})} du = - \int \frac{u^{\frac{1}{\ln a}}}{\ln a} du

OK, that's the tricky part. The rest is pretty easy.
 
Sweet. Then the indefinite integral should be:

(a^(-ln(x)*1/(ln(3))+1))/(ln(a) +1)

The bad news is that evaluating this at infinity and 1 (for the integral test) gives -.59062 for a = 2 and -.47651 for a =3 which means that both of the series converge, which can not be true as the problem tells me that one converges and one diverges.

What's going on?
 
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(1/2)^(log(x)) is actually x^p for some constant p. Can you find that p? (1/2)^(log(x))=e^(log(1/2)*log(x))=(e^(log(x)))^log(1/2). What do you know about the convergence of p-series?
 
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From here it goes:
- \int \frac{u^{\frac{1}{\ln a}}}{\ln a} du = - \frac{u^{(1 -\frac{1}{\ln a})}}{(1 - \frac{1}{\ln a}) \ln a}

Substituting back for u:

-\frac{{(a^{-\ln x})}^{(1 -\frac{1}{\ln a})}}{\ln a - 1} = \frac{x a^{- \ln x}}{1 - \ln a} (+C)
 
  • #12
hgfalling said:
From here it goes:
- \int \frac{u^{\frac{1}{\ln a}}}{\ln a} du = - \frac{u^{(1 -\frac{1}{\ln a})}}{(1 - \frac{1}{\ln a}) \ln a}

Substituting back for u:

-\frac{{(a^{-\ln x})}^{(1 -\frac{1}{\ln a})}}{\ln a - 1} = \frac{x a^{- \ln x}}{1 - \ln a} (+C)

Aren't you making this a bit harder than it needs to be? a^(ln(x))=x^(ln(a)), isn't it?
 
  • #13
Yes, much harder. :(

OP, pay attention to what Dick says.
 
  • #14
Dick said:
(1/2)^(log(x)) is actually x^p for some constant p. Can you find that p? (1/2)^(log(x))=e^(log(1/2)*log(x))=(e^(log(x)))^log(1/2). What do you know about the convergence of p-series?

That's so beautiful yet simple. That was the clue I needed.

Thanks to both of you for your help.
 
  • #15
Bob Busby:

you can use Cauchy's Condensation Test for the first part of question 1:
f(n) =< (2^n)*f(2^n)

Also can be done by the Ye'Olde p Test :)
~ 1/(n^1.1)
 

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